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Ban reason: Found bizarre messages of threatening to finger someone while log diving


Length of ban: Permanent I think? Says "banned from playing here"


Events leading to the ban: This was a pretty old thing that I vague remember, I don't remember if it was looc or in-character, but it was meant to just be a silly in-game vague threat. 

This was weeks ago, and the ban message literally calls out this was "log diving," which sounds like they were just trying to find a reason. 

I recall someone said that it could be misconstrued as ERP, which was not the intention, so I dropped it there. 

I've admittedly done a few stupid things here since I've started playing, but I never have an intention of round removing people needlessly and I've consistently improved based on admin feedback.


Reason the ban should be removed: I've been a pretty consistent player always listening to admin intervention and overall trying to get a grasp of the rules and improve as a player. This was an older instance of my playing and one that I pretty quickly and immediately pivoted away from when someone said it could me misconstrued as ERP. 

The intention was to be more of a vague threat as to what fingering was, wasn't really thinking of anything in a sexual way, was just meant to be silly. 

I feel I've been recently targeted by a few players who have been excessively ahelping me, with one specific admin that has been scrutinizing many smaller issues. 

Most recently I crit a guy who started disassembling furniture at my chef station who refused to stop and tried to run away with the materials. 

I had ahelped the admin asking about nukie evac being recalled, and instead they started drilling on me about critting a guy who stole my stuff. 

I carried the guy to medbay immediately after critting him and by next round he apologized and I clarified I had no animosity, but the admin seemed very upset I didn't call sec and simply let the guy steal my stuff and hope sec can track it back down. 

I had even stopped attacking him hoping he would stop running, but he did not.

After getting the proper escalation clarified in Discord to confirm that I had followed the rules, I played a few more rounds without issue. 

Suddenly finding out I'm banned from someone who log dived weeks into the past to find a single instance worthy of a permaban sounds excessive and like targeting. 

I've questioned some admins judgements in the past, but always aim to learn from mistakes and improve how I play. 

 

 

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This was weeks ago, and the ban message literally calls out this was "log diving," which sounds like they were just trying to find a reason. 

I literally don't know who you are but in no universe is it acceptable to say "I'll finger you rn if you dont calm down" to another player in a server with minors on it.

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Never really pictured SS as a game with anything but an adult audience, and again it's like a multiple weeks old comment with no real repetition. 

Just seemed like an out of pocket/funny threat at the time, someone immediately said I shouldn't make comments like that and I dropped it. 

It wasn't really intended to be sexual in nature, just an adlib instead of something violent like kill/beat. 

It was a one off comment one time trying to mix up some language, with no attempts to repeat it. 

I can get an admin leaving a note to not do it again, but a full on permaban?

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And since it might not be clear, I respect the choice of the server to be devoid of anything that can be misconstrued as ERP. 

I understood that when the person told me immediately after the offhanded threat, that I shouldn't say stuff like that on the server, nor would I again if unbanned.

What I don't understand is why this would come weeks later with no signs of repeat behavior, with a clear message immediately after regarding the subject of not talking like that.

It feels like an extreme choice, with no direction to even appeal. 

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On 3/4/2024 at 11:28 PM, MiniMelt said:

What I don't understand is why this would come weeks later with no signs of repeat behavior, with a clear message immediately after regarding the subject of not talking like that.

Because, well, someone went log diving. Every now and then we comb through messages for things like slurs or sexually charged messages- things that break our zero tolerance rules. There isn't a wider reason or a conspiracy at play. You got caught by a net that we occasionally cast, and you also just so happen to be a player with an extensive history beyond that. This is the least personal ban that you could possibly be hit by.

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This has been put to an admin discussion and vote of which we have come to the consensus to permanently ban you, you may not make any further appeals.

This was a unanimous result with 20 admins agreeing to upgrade this ban.

The reasons provided in the discussion for this decision were the following:
- Clear sexual abuse threat
- Previous history and issues
- Disingenuous appeal

Appeal Denied - No further appeals possible.

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