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SS14 account username: argie
Ban reason: banned for sec due to toxic behavior.
Date of ban: 17-10-2023
Length of ban: 30 days
Events leading to the ban:The ban as i understand happened due to my conduct in two rounds. in the first one i hit a guy who broke all the chairs in arrivials dealing him 70 damage before stoping. In the 2nd round i was rude to the hos  and a cdt and i threw a syndie pai into space.
Reason the ban should be removed:  I feel the ban is too leangthy. for the first round i thought the guy was intensionaly breaking the chairs so he can steal our items, i was later informed by a admin that he was infact fixing the chairs , i can't say which is true but based on the info i had at hand i yelled at him why he broke the bloody chairs, he told me he didn't do it while he had the steel and a item that can break chairs in his hands ,there for i thought it  was him.For the syndie pai i was not aware that we should maintain pai's that where from syndie stuff. I threw him though mainly for personal spite due to him reporting me to admin for literaly shooting a syndie who used syndie abilities to try and kill me.I do understand why that's wrong in the same breath. to throw a pai is literal hell since he can't die but mistakenly i thought due to it being a syndie item making it inaccessable was alright.The rudeness against HoS and the cdt i think was warented.The HoP was saposed to tell hos that i was going under cover, i even anounced it to fellow sec officers when i spawned, and not only i was arrested twice but my id was stolen by them which was terrible since without it i couldn't say that indeed i was a sec officer. i did tell them to check manifest and they said that i was a passenger. They where incompitent to a point that they left a dead syndie to rot in a cabin(which got noticed only after i told cap about it) . i did mind you ask for that syndie to be gibbed but i didn't hide him or anything like that. they literaly put him in a cabin and leave him. And i got banned and not only that but next time i do <<somthing>> i will be permabanned while half the stuff i did where either minor offences or justified.

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I think you got off easy with a temporary security ban seeing has there has been prior significant issues with your security play that makes use significantly question if you are able to play the role at all without getting yourself in trouble.

According to the administrator’s notes, the person allegedly disassembling chairs in arrivals was trying to explain their side of the story until you nearly beat them into near critical and then left. Regardless of his disassembly of chairs or not this would not be an appropriate response in vast majority of scenarios.

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4 hours ago, lonesoldier55 said:

I think you got off easy with a temporary security ban seeing has there has been prior significant issues with your security play that makes use significantly question if you are able to play the role at all without getting yourself in trouble.

According to the administrator’s notes, the person allegedly disassembling chairs in arrivals was trying to explain their side of the story until you nearly beat them into near critical and then left. Regardless of his disassembly of chairs or not this would not be an appropriate response in vast majority of scenarios.

that reason i do agree. i used the wrong kind of force,which i did agree with the admin to not do again since a solution was apparent aka to paton them to stun them, now i did not actualy mean to deal too much damage ,when i figured i punched him too much i just stopped and backed off. I don't think i should be judged more hurshly due to prior incrasirations. If you mean the HoS thing that was  months ago and i belive i have shown good behavior in general as sec. I did have some run ins with the admins over some deaths but some where cleared while others got me to play better and to avoid furthur truble. but nothing too major.

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Read this since i typed my thoughts better here not the above

 

that reason i do agree. i used the wrong kind of force,which i did agree with the admin to not do again since a solution was apparent aka to baton and stun them, now i did not actualy mean to deal too much damage ,when i figured i punched him too much i just stopped and backed off, but that was a one off fail that was quite unment to actualy crit him, i wanted him to stop and not destroy the last chairs that we would sit on , and the whole situation may have been a misunderstanding. in the matter of him telling his side i already told you above he was holding the stuff in his hand there for i belived i was in solid ground to yell and punch him a bit to make sure he doesn't do it again.

TL;DR: I know it was the wrong kind of force but in all due reality nothing bad came from it since i stopped when i realised it was doing it too much , the guy got meds and got better, and i and the admin of that round already found a better solution if such problems come up again which is to stun them and cuff them till we get to the station.There for the ban is unwarented for this solved reason.

 

. I don't think i should be judged more hurshly due to prior incrasirations. If you mean the HoS thing that was  months ago and i belive i have shown good behavior in general as sec. I did have some run ins with the admins over some deaths but some where cleared while others got me to play better and to avoid furthur truble. but nothing too major.

8 minutes ago, argie said:

that reason i do agree. i used the wrong kind of force,which i did agree with the admin to not do again since a solution was apparent aka to paton them to stun them, now i did not actualy mean to deal too much damage ,when i figured i punched him too much i just stopped and backed off. I don't think i should be judged more hurshly due to prior incrasirations. If you mean the HoS thing that was  months ago and i belive i have shown good behavior in general as sec. I did have some run ins with the admins over some deaths but some where cleared while others got me to play better and to avoid furthur truble. but nothing too major.

 

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The best indication of future behavior is past behavior, which is why we heavily consider it when deciding when and how to apply bans. I think in this case given your significant experience with security already that you would be expected to know that physically beating someone for very vaguely suspected vandalism is beyond inappropriate, to say nothing of other alleged issues throughout the following rounds. 

For this reasoning you can wait this ban out.

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