deltanedas Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I'd llke to start with I am not the best atmosian out there. so i was making a chamberless trit setup and ran into 3 main problems with it: 1. trit filter was not working properly and there was still some trit in the pipes 2. even with like 4 filters each there was still huge amounts of co2 or vapour in the pipes depending on mix, these should also be filtered out rapidly but arent for whatever reason 3. trying to feed new fuel is very painful as the pipe has to be below 4.5mpa for the mixer to output it so production is very on/off Can any elder atmosians give tips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Ok, I'm far from being an elder atmosian, and I've never done a chamberless tritium setup, but let's see. > 1. trit filter was not working properly and there was still some trit in the pipes What pipes? You're expected to have a mix of gases, including tritium, entering the filter. If you see tritium in the straight output, the one that should contain anything but tritium, then that's because the plasma in the output is still burning and making more tritium, after passing through the filter. (really, a picture or drawing of your setup would be cool) I can't imagine not using the chamber for this, though. The chamber is RIGHT THERE! I just cram as many scrubbers as I can in there, all for tritium, and leave one passive vent leading outside - that'll take care of the pressure. Maybe that can be done with pipes, but get a passive vent leading outside! You have an infinite supply of gases, don't worry about waste. One question though. How do you get plasma to ignite in the pipes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltanedas Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 > If you see tritium in the straight output, the one that should contain anything but tritium, then that's because the plasma in the output is still burning and making more tritium, after passing through the filter. i thought i had prevented this by freezing it in first filter which seemed to work temperature wise but filter outputs still had trit and wastes > (really, a picture or drawing of your setup would be cool) ill post in a bit > One question though. How do you get plasma to ignite in the pipes? once its 200C it ignites itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltanedas Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 heres layout of it left: trit canning bottom: fuel mixer 99% 1% 4.5mpa should go to 50% 50% eventually i think above: trit going left, water and co2 going right all at 4.5mpa top: freezers for (ideally) leftover fuel below that: 4.4mpa pump to recycle leftover fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 >> If you see tritium in the straight output, the one that should contain anything but tritium, then that's because the plasma in the output is still burning and making more tritium, after passing through the filter. > i thought i had prevented this by freezing it in first filter which seemed to work temperature wise but filter outputs still had trit and wastes Oh. I didn't know that was a thing. My previous answer might be wrong, then. > bottom: fuel mixer 99% 1% 4.5mpa should go to 50% 50% eventually i think See, that's one reason why I like just venting it all in the chamber. You just keep it at 99:1, no need to worry about adjusting ratios aftwerwards. > above: trit going left, water and co2 going right all at 4.5mpa Are you putting different mixers on top of each other? Ha! Ingenious! I'd never have thought of that. It looks like you're a much more experienced atmosian than I am. I can't see anything obviously wr--- WAIT A MINUTE Do you have tritium and CO2 and vapor filters on the same tile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Another question: what is under the heater? A bend going left-up, I presume. And maybe half a pipe going south. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltanedas Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 > Do you have tritium and CO2 and vapor filters on the same tile? on the recreation used for the screenshot yes but on the original each filter type has its own tile > what is under the heater? A bend going left-up, I presume yep but half pipe isnt used. im not sure if it has any use tbh i guess ill try having a more linear chamber that just goes out to space instead of looping, hopefully it will help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltanedas Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 so i made 2 loopless setups one chamberless one using a spaced chamber top makes about .11mols/s, bottom 0.0025/s it has 20 trit filters and 8 total venting pumps (1 gas 7 vol), 3 or so active god damn it sucks compared to chamberless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltanedas Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 new epic idea ill be trying is having more reaction pipes to use more of the fuel mix before spacing it, progressively slower pump speeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 >> Do you have tritium and CO2 and vapor filters on the same tile? > on the recreation used for the screenshot yes but on the original each filter type has its own tile Ah, ok then. Because having them all in one tile would definitely leak tritium to the wrong places! >> what is under the heater? A bend going left-up, I presume > yep but half pipe isnt used. im not sure if it has any use tbh Yeah, no, you're right. A half pipe would do nothing in this situation. I just thought that, maybe, you thought it'd be necessary to have a pipe of some kind (like I once thought), and I was making sure you weren't placing a full straight pipe in there. Which would be bad. Which, of course, you know already. I'm trying to help, but I'm the one doing the learning here! XD > so i made 2 loopless setups one chamberless one using a spaced chamber > (...) Okay, this time, I couldn't make sense of your setup... =( It doesn't even look like two separate things! > new epic idea ill be trying is having more reaction pipes to use more of the fuel mix before spacing it, progressively slower pump speeds? That does resonate with some instincts I've had regarding chambers. I suspect bigger IS better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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