StreakyHaddock

Appeal Accepted. Don't drink and plasma.

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Appeal closed due to inactivity.

Everything stated here is pretty much true from what I observed, and I thank you for not bending the truth at all. I accept that the behaviour of the station was quite chaotic and tbh you'll have more rounds like it in future. However, trying to 'take over the station' never ends well and setting yourself up as the antagonist when you aren't the antagonist (e.g declaring martial law for littering) can interfere with actual traitors. If you want to do this, please please do it as the traitor. As for your behaviour on the station, I did feel somewhat bad for banning you; On paper everything I described is a series of red flags we see every day. However, what I observed was remarkably little body count, an allowance for cloning people who'd tried to kill you and a general sense you were trying to include people in your mayhem which is something that i'd love to see from a traitor. The issue of metacommunicating and cooperating is a harder one to approach, though. Ordinarily I'd be satisfied to unban you now, but in a game where "fog of war" and shifting loyalties from round to round is a core mechanic, two people who will always align with eachother, coordinate quickly in an area that can't be moderated by admins or observed by other players and use eachother's resources to empower eachother... is very unfair. The game and its moderation tools are in a basic form but even so metacommunication is very hard to prove and to police even in games with sophisticated tools and that is the main problem I have with unbanning you both. How can I be sure you aren't co-ordinating in discord? And when I see you two working together, how do I know you're doing it for round-related reasons and not because you're biased against eachother? This is not a trick question. I would like to know how I can allow you back in the server. Because If you're honest and stick to what you've told me, I think you and Mike would be a good addition to the community.

Though I am happy to see you appealing, please use the following Template for your appeal:

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We have three alts on record, ACrummyRoyale, ACrummyRival and Acuumyroyale. Which one will you be keeping?

If I don't get a response by Sunday, i'll be closing the appeal.

I'm declining this appeal because even when it has been explained to you, you don't seem capable of comprehending the rules. I presume this is a language barrier issue, which means that the likelihood of you doing this again is very high. After conferring with other admins, I'll be re-assigning the permanent ban to a month's ban. This is to give you time to try to understand the rules more to the point where, when your ban expires, you'll be able to follow them clearly and understand why leading an independent revolt in security which leaves multiple dead as a non-traitor is something we don't want to see happening again.

So as a result, I need to hear a better unban justification than: "I make good meth, i have good midis and the ban is dumb"

Hello, I'm Streaky Haddock the Game Administrator that banned you. I am also going to be the one who handles your appeal. I do apologise for the lack of clarity in my communications and the lengthy time between responses, in incidents like this I have to speak to several people at once and cross-reference with what hard evidence I may have. So yes, when you logged out I didn't view it as you trying to escape the ban, but it did effectively end my ability to question you further and I was the only admin on that server at the time. During my questioning and speaking with several witnesses, it was determined that none of what you told me was true. The shooting had stopped long before you responded. There was plenty of living people around, with only two casualties. Zed said 'Do not Clone them'. You asked: 'Which?'. The CMO had put his gun away, was putting the person he had just killed into disposals and didn't respond, to which your response was to begin stripping the scientist that the CMO had been pulling. Fair enough. What happened next was the CMO told you to stop, and put everything back. Your response was to ask 'which person', and then the CMO told you to put everything back 'or else'. Yes, he threatened you but that threat was precluded upon a reasonable request. Put back everything that was on a body in the care of the Chief Medical Officer. Your response was to wordlessly, immediately beat him with a stunbaton on harm intent until you were interrupted. The reason why the ban is permanent is because not one element of your story was backed up by witnesses. In addition, I record my rounds and now I have gone back to review the clip, I can see the full extent of how misleading your story is. I'll provide evidence of my chat log with you, and my recorded footage in the interest of transparency after this post.

Well, you began by advertising in OOC chat to form cargonia, you raided the brig for weapons and killed security when they tried to stop you all when you weren't a traitor. Does that clarify where you may have gone wrong in terms of violating the rules?

Are you certain that is your final answer after reading all the rules?