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  1. Apologies, had a really busy week in real-life and wanted to avoid dealing with this to avoid stressing out excessively. Actually yes I have been in :t briefly, I was invited to it the same day a few hours after I joined clon station' however I think I was kicked some time a few days after I'd joined it, as far as I know the discord was just a place he would socialize with his other friends of which I gathered the dialogue was a bit out of my taste (I also suspect that was why I was kicked) so I never really involved myself much with it other than sharing a couple pics of aHelps I'd had that day, to cope and seethe over etc, as far as users in there it was maybe 7-9 people (this was also on the 6th of February when I had joined it) though I have no idea who those people would be. As far as the discord goes thats essentially the extent of what I know about it, again sorry not for mentioning this in my original comment on discords, it had actually completely slipped my mind being so minor and 3 weeks prior.
  2. Which; The only other player among the ones listed in this appeal of which I share a discord with is Skarlet.
  3. The only other discords we share is my personal discord which he was invited to on the 23rd as we planned on playing Project-Zomboid with a friend group of mine. Also given that there are no other cases to be presented currently as evidence, Am I correct to assume that this would mean all remaining evidence consists of either; Myself and another undisclosed suspect Toboyo, another undisclosed suspect, and myself Or examples of myself being perceived to metafriend currently unmentioned players And should that be the case I am ready to hopefully be able to give more information on passed rounds. May I add it is beneficial to request knowledge now before these cases are from 2-3 weeks ago and that I will have completely forgotten their events except for minor vignettes that may not even be relevant to the discussion. Shorter reply as its 1am and I have had a busy day, If I missed any questions from your previous message and I have not replied by your next post, please requote any sections I need to address.
  4. No, I am saying that anyone; can give players a higher degree of trust or respect, based on their actions in the present, in situations where they don't have prior experiences to base judgements off of. If this has complicated the process or planned actions you had as an administration team, is it not wrong for me to bring to point that Skarlets appeal was not held as critically as mine, despite both appeals currently only resting on the same singular round's points of evidence which have already been disputed multiple times? Additionally it is an inaccuracy to say that this is one-way metafriending as she would also have had to have the expectation she would be allowed to get away with casually taking the insulated gloves off of my hands without expecting repercussions. (Also I already get that Skarlets case is independent from mine, I feel obligated to point this out as a minor error in judgement). You are asking if I am aware of the thoughts going through the head of a madman, as has already been mentioned multiple times, Toboyo acts incredibly unpredictably. And to quote deltlanedas who has decided to help shed light on Toboyo's nature, this helps affirm that I don't know and cannot say with accuracy, so no, I am not aware if Toboyo is metacommunicating with other players. And I share the sentiments expressed by this player. This is a fair point, I can understand not being able to disclose all information regarding the cases, however if I myself am tentatively banned, and its clear the issues relating to myself are primarily directed in regards to Toboyo who is also banned for the same reasons, could I receive some additional examples of suspected metacommunication between us both, as you already said its best to keep these responses short I would greatly like to spend the majority of them discussing actual in game events rather than semantics, since we've had a 3 day correspondence and I'm fairly sure this thread will end up being wordy enough to be considered a college/university dissertation by the time we are finished (which I think both of our minds and hands would appreciate not happening). And as a final point to bring to light off platform communications with Toboyo; I can only comment on a private discord, of which yourself and multiple other admins are members of. I think I write with accuracy to say that you are aware his Text-To-Speech name (or display name at that) was at one point "SelfAntag Metagamer", As far as external communication with Toboyo is concerned our private messages on discord are comprised of post round comments, and generic memes, which I am sure are perfectly within reason to be communicated. I also believe that I have verbally discussed my disdain towards the metacommunication rules in said discord within your presence, however as someone with a background in community management and game design, when expressing this it is coming from a place of care and passion, as I believe the rule is detrimental to the growth and appeal of the game, I understand what the rule represents, seeing at its worst you could have cases like the Samuel incident, and at its most malicious you could have players power gaming to have complete power and knowledge over a round, my resent towards the rule is solely aimed when considering the rule for small groups of friends initially approaching the game, it is at that point that you can easily scare players away from experiencing the game as they are essentially stripped from safely having experiences involving people that they are comfortable around. I feel it is important to express this myself as to why you may have believed what I mentioned had general resentment to the servers rules and order, I speak with a moderate amount of justifiability when I say that we as people play games to make friends, and that a rule encouraging you to not do that can not come without some harm.
  5. I would say that its understandable that I cannot make an assumption on if a player understand the game well or not without multiple rounds of exposure to them, however there are other reasons than multiple rounds of exposure that you could use to interpret if a player has a good understanding of the game or is trustable in situations without knowing them e.g. seeing how other players acts around them, or someone making an extremely good first impression which was the case with clayton catching a blood-red 5~ minutes into the round and requesting backup before recklessly engaging. Additionally regarding MrJoe, I read his appeal that was made some time yesterday and it even states he rarely plays as a named character and is usually taking over ghost roles, I would like to ask how he specifically relates to my case. Going back to the issues involving Skarlet, its possible for Skarlet to have dragged my player over herself to open the UI and see I had insuls, however after checking on a private server, gray kings gloves are identical both visually and functionally to regular insulated gloves, they simply have a different display name, unless your suggesting I would dare put budget insuls on my hands... (though I interpreted what you wrote to mean that the gray kings gloves appear as something other than insuls on the player model which confused me at first) Additionally regarding Skarlet's ban appeal having been already accepted; I find it pointless to bring matters regarding her forward, as we would be going ad-nauseam over something that has already been adjudicated, since her 'coincidentally' running into Toboyo and myself to randomly obtain a pair of mission critical insulated gloves, would mean she is involved, which your team has already decided was not the case. Toboyo is a strange, and unpredictable player. As I said in my first response he can either go SSD, or start following someone I can only assume is catching his interest or he thinks is syndie, I find it fun to follow him as lawyer as it helps me be around interesting events (as I think we can both agree 3/4 shifts a lawyers real job is never actually requested required or even acknowledged, which is why I use the role to essentially play as a non-sec detective/reporter). If I am being accused of metacommunications and metafriending could I please have all instances in your knowledge brought forward to me in one go so that these issues can be resolved, it currently feels that I'm in a limbo of being banned solely to be interrogated for information on things happening from over a week ago that I have little to- or no recollection of. I hope that doesnt across as rude or insensitive to your processes, but I've essentially had the game pulled away from on what is unarguably the best period of the week for what feels like ephemeral reasons.
  6. Regarding the IC names given Billy Crumble - I genuinely cannot say I've ever seen that name in game. Clayton Sheets - I have 3 rounds in my memory that i can think of that involve clayton; once where they were detective where i followed them around in maints as a lawyer and we caught a bloodred prepping at AI on bagel another on Aspid where i was chemist and he was helping me learn how to use modular grenades and we both just die to zombie ops nukies and a third where I was HoP on the first shift that fland was played and he looked like detective and i let him in the safe by accident (he was just passenger...). Willy Sulyard - And again I don't think I can recall ever seeing this name in game. Regarding the event involving Skarlet, I'm unsure when this round was and it has fleeted my memory since, but I'd have to guess I was CMO? I remember a shift where I had 2 pairs of insuls from a maints dive to get a fuel tank, and I just tossed the spare at a table in medbay, and if you're saying she stripped them off me that would mean she had the ability to just see that I'm wearing the gloves and just decided to try her luck at yoinking them off me, as for knowing if Skarlet needed insuls, It's known culture for players to want insuls given how game breaking-ly powerful they are (denying grille shocks and enabling hacking being undefinably powerful tools), and if this was a round where i had 2 pairs then I would have just let her take the gloves off my hands and just swapped back to ones I had on the table for the comedic moment of someone just taking my gloves and running off similar to the common prank of stealing shoes. (if I'm right that that was the round I'm thinking of, tough fairly sure this round was around 7-14 days ago?). Regarding players I treat more preferably I more refer to the concept of knowing a player understands the mechanics of the game and can make use of that knowledge when I feel I can trust them on a given round, consider the situation of shuttle building on box station and a brand new player or random chef walks past and asks to help, theres a high chance they would waste materials or get themselves hurt or only be asking to try assassinate you, I would much more likely say yes to a player I recognize since they have reason to want to and would much less likely be asking solely to assassinate you. When you've played on a single server as much as many of us have, its only a given that you would be able to identify players you can find confidence in for sensitive tasks, and that is more what I meant when referring to "preferential treatment". If absolutely required I could name off 10-20 players I know understand the game well enough if needed to but I feel that this matter is unrelated to the greater scope of the server, I also feel it would be antagonistic on my behalf and disrespectful to said people to have to name them despite being unrelated to my suspicions of metacomming, only to either get them involved in something they're unrelated to and/or lose personal face as a result. And regarding your playbook on handling sleuth work for solving sensitive rules such as metacomming of course I understand what you mean, it's completely understandable to hold your cards close to your chest in that regard.
  7. Regarding the names mentioned; I can understand suspecting me of comming with Toboyo, I'll often follow him around cause he always either SSD/suicides or goes hyper detective so it makes for a fun round to follow him. they're also a player I have full trust in acting efficiently, for example the last time I interacted in game with him I believe was a shift where I was CMO, busy teaching an intern while I had 3 chemists that weren't effective at making chems, I think one was syndie or antagging with mislabelled pills and Toboyo came for bicar and just said "let me bicar" or something equally silly, knowing he'd make it in like 30s I let him (he then actually just went SSD on the dog bed in chem for the rest of the shift). I would give the same preferential treatment to other players that i trust the game knowledge of and that are well intentioned when they see the station is lacking in some regard. As for Skarlet i don't have any idea how there could be comms between us, the most interaction I can think we've had in a shift was me slamming them onto a table as clown multiple times with them responding being angry, other than that screaming or pointing at her when I pass them in a hallway which I do for practically anyone I recognize visually. Other than Skarlet and Toboyo, none of those usernames ring a bell, in character names would be more useful though I feel any of the players I'd be thought of metafriending with I'd at least have talked to them in OOC chat after a round ended and know them by that. Additionally a suggestion on how to handle suspected metacomming in the future rather than bulk appeal banning suspects, over the last 7 weeks I've sank just nigh of 600 hours into the game playing solely on lizard, i feel that over this time if my characters presence was being perceived as a suspect of the rules I'm being banned for, requesting me to change my appearance and name would have been a better solution since you'd then get a lot cleaner evidence from me of metacomming since I'd randomly be getting preferential treatment from the other suspected players, I originally thought this was actually in the rules for that kind of reason but it appears I misinterpreted the rule on names being "recognizable" in regards to non-/fictional characters I would also appreciate some direct examples of what makes it 'tentative' that I was metacomming, similar to how liltenhead has done on Skarlet's appeal. I hope the information I've given is enough to shed some light onto this matter.
  8. SS14 account username: Archee Ban reason: "Heavily suspected metacommunication / metafriending. Tentative ban, appeal at forum.ss14.io" Date of ban: 24/02/2023 Length of ban: appeal only Events leading to the ban: i played hamlet from round start, and the QM adopted me, took me to cargo. syndies roll and they reveal in their office to me that they're one, i emote play to help them and hint i want cognizine and that i have plans. later on i lag and run out the airlock and die, ahelp to ask to be resurrected. then later on in the round after the QM dies i get kicked with the ban Reason the ban should be removed: i don't see how this is metafriending or comms... unless im not being given the full picture? i'm just really confused.
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