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Given previous behavior and conduct in this appeal I don't believe your behavior will improve. You may appeal in 6 months with a voucher from another SS13 or SS14 server.
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Ban has been lifted. You are role banned from all security roles for 2 weeks. Apologies for delays.
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Taking a risk with this one IMO but I will be lifting this ban. Any behavior related to ERP will result in a no-appeal permanent ban and full community ban.
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Given your experience and conduct on Corvax (which I haven't heard anything bad about) I'm willing to give you another shot here. Note that this will effectively be probation and any behavior related to excessive powergaming or exploiting mechanics will result in a no-appeal permanent ban.
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The attempt to ban evade and conduct in this appeal leads me to believe that your behavior will not improve. You may appeal again in a year with a voucher from a different SS13 or SS14 server.
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Datacenter bans are not applied to your account, only if you're connecting from the banned IP range. If you would like to continue playing, you can't use your VPN, or you need to use a different one that is not banned
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Application accepted, welcome!
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Your application has been denied at this time. It still mostly looks good, so feel free to re-apply if you'd like with some more experience and visibility.
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Application accepted, welcome!
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Application accepted, welcome!
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Reopened, report of evasion was incorrect
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I don't really think its super ambiguous. Most people don't have an issue with this (even SS13 veterans) and are aware to not spam WGW. That said, obviously it's understood that it won't happen again so this will be an unban.
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1 minute ago, Rich0rd said:
Third post replying to your third post now. This is starting to get messy now, please be less impulsive about trying to justify a permaban.
I'm responding to your messages as I see them to explain my conduct in a collected manner. I don't see how this is "impulsively trying to justify a permaban" and I don't appreciate your attempted framing of me in that matter.
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I think I've made my point fully, so I will leave this one to other admins for a final opinion
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Just now, Rich0rd said:
Gaslighting is used in abuse situations. That does not mean that it is abuse. Let's say two people stand on a podium and have a debate and one gaslights the other. Hardly anybody would see it as abuse. Especially in such situations it is merely a conversation tool, not some form of abuse.
...I can't do more than say that I was not being sarcastic...
...I even said sorry with extra spice and in fat print but that too was taken as sarcasm...
Gaslighting is absolutely a form of abuse on its own. It's not a word people use for things like political debates, it's not a conversation tool, it is pretty widely considered a form of abuse.
I'm unsure if this is a language barrier issue or something but I don't see how you can possibly say the remarks you made were not sarcastic or hostile in any way. Any reasonable person would see it as such. This one, for instance, is one you claim was just 'saying sorry with extra spice' but was 'taken as sarcasm':
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Other snippets from the same conversation. I was not the only one upset with your behavior here--multiple others expressed the same thing to me publicly and privately.
(for the record, i called veritius out for what I saw as an overly rude comment as well)
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As for the initial timeout, you were being extremely confrontational and hostile to multiple users in the discord. After being told to stop and phrase your criticism in good faith you persisted, and as such were timed out.
The ban was given for continuing to instigate in my DMs and accusing me of abusive behavior.
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Gaslighting is a form of abuse and an extremely serious accusation to levy on someone, especially over basic discord messages.
For the record, this is the message which I pointed out as being overly sarcastic, hostile and unhelpful, and which Richord is claiming was not intended to be sarcastic in any way:
I think any reasonable person sees this as a sarcastic statement. I don't appreciate it being framed as simply you saying "i needed to be more specific". Claiming I am gaslighting you by calling this out is frankly abusive behavior that I don't have any intention of harboring in our discord.
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On your first day playing, you were banned for breaking one of the more obvious rules (RDM/griefing) and then immediately attempted to evade the ban with your friend. I don't think either of you will contribute to making our servers better in any capacity.
The "chickenmctittes" account does not appear to have ever connected to our servers, so I'm assuming that is one of your alts and it has been banned.
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You have multiple bans for griefing during the time you've been playing. This current ban came only a week after your last permanent ban for griefing was appealed.
I don't trust that your behavior will change meaningfully, and I don't appreciate your attempts to lie to Stealth about the nature of the griefing, saying you 'accidentally' disassembled things and were 'screwdriving random stuff as like a joke'. This appeal will be denied and you may reappeal in 2 months.
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This appeal appears to be primarily copy pasted from the previous appeal. I don't trust that your behavior will change at all, and its my opinion that you will not be a player that contributes to a good atmosphere ingame. You may re-appeal in a month.
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As Stealth has said, no one has ever taken issue with the wording of our ERP rule or been unable to understand what qualifies as ERP. I don't think there's an issue here. If you don't see these actions as obviously constituting erotic roleplay, I would be worried for your conduct in the future.
The OOC messages here (taken after the round where the ERP took place, I believe? selululu was the other person involved, and the date and time both check out) seem to indicate that you understood that what you did could have constituted as ERP. Do you have any explanation for that? -
ERP is one of our most harshly punished rules, considering that we allow minors on the server. As such, we are not particularly lenient with it, as Stealth has explained.
I trust that this will not happen again, and it's been quite a while since this appeal was filed, so the ban will be removed. As this is your second appeal ban, and sixth ban in 6 months, you only have one appeal ban left before further bans will be permanent.
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There doesn't seem to be much evidence in favor of this being warranted for an ERP ban, and you have very few other offenses, so this will be lifted. Apologies for the wait.
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Ban Appeal (revised)
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You do not need to make a new topic just to edit a couple sentences, you can do that in the appeal you currently have open.