KingOrange

Okay. Yeah, there are a lot of "What if" which aren't really good enough to attack a person, although during the combat situation (Where you mainly think about combat) it seemed alright to me, i didn't give it that much attention. In-game, especially during battles people think less about important things like the rules, everybody focus on combat, for obvious reasons. In conclusion, after reading your messages and thinking, i've realised that i was wrong. Sadly i didn't understand it earlier, during that round. I've given you reasons why i shouldn't be banned, you gave me reasons why i should be banned. I think thats all i can say that might be important for this case. You know that i am trying to improve, make the game funnier with my actions (Both as antag and non-antag), i am trying to be nice to people. I have a good and bad sides. Sometimes i break rules, sometimes i make rounds a lot better. You can keep the ban and shame me if i deserve this, lower it or accept the appeal, but just... this was a small misunderstanding with the scientists. Just, i wish to say sorry to all the scientists who have been attacked by monkeys during that round, to all the people who got offended in the past in any way. No matter what the decision of the admin team will be, i just hope whoever reads this will have a nice day.

Okay so. You're actually right at a few moments. About the corpses... Why would scientists drag the bodies into artifact chamber? Isn't it better to take them to med for biomass, to cargo for money or to kitchen for meat? I am not sure if dead bodies activate artifacts. So what if its not activated, would i get killed? That also took a point.

I've explained this a little earlier in my previous post, but i can explain it again. So, after taking the ghost role i was at orange-green (Nearly orange) health and i saw scientists dragging around dead monkey bodies. Since i was damaged, shouldn't that make me worried? I've picked a random target i saw after spotted a dead monkey body.

That happened after i took the ghost role.

Okay so, given the little info i can already understand what happened. Now, how about i tell you the story at the different angle, from my prespective? So.. Once in a time, science crew spawns a monkey to activate an artifact. As a monkey lover (Which i stated in the post above) i took it because the rest of ghost roles we're mice/pai. From the start, i've seen a monkey cube box and as a lone monkey (Who got de-hydrated and then got hydrated once again) i've decided to make myself some friends to hang with. Lets agree, playing with somebody is more interesting than playing with little no players in an online game. So yeah, i've made myself some friends and then.. I saw how a scientist asked "Which one is original?" and took out a crowbar. After that i took a nearest welder. Guess what. Correct, we've started fighting. Now lets take a look at the game rules. Character Names & General In-Game rules --> Rule 6: Follow escalation rules. --> Rule 6.4 "YOU MAY ALWAYS DEFEND YOURSELF to the extent of protecting your own life. Once there is no longer an immediate threat to your life, you should stop your attack unless you have a very good reason to believe your target is an antagonist." And rule 6.3 "YOU MAY ESCALATE TO THE SAME LEVEL AS YOUR OPPONENT. If your opponent whips out a gun and starts trying to shoot you, you are enabled to do the same." The rules clearly say that i am able to protect my own life. Now lets use logic. Since you can't self-antag or over-escalate as a monkey, that means all rules apply to you. And that includes these 2. So, the scientists have spawned in a monkey to kill it, does that mean i am just supposed to stay there and die without making any effort to protect my character's life? Now lets get back to the action scene. I did not want to fight somebody and just expected to start RPing as a monkey. Of course i've tried to protect my own life since the scientists had to kill me for an artifact activation. Now i am gonna answer the reply. "You definitively appear to have used your time on a new round to take every available monkey ghost role" I was spectating the round and wanted to do something. As stated above, i like monkey roles, so i've took one. It is fair for people to take loves which they love. "as an excuse to attack random players" Once again, i just wanted to roleplay as a monkey and did not want to fight scientists. After all, i've protected my own life. "with a habit of abandoning your ghost role once someone crit you, immediately taking another, and resuming your attack on that person." Okay so, the reason i ghosted when fell in crit is really simple. No one really wants to wait 20+ seconds to just die without getting revived. Why did i take another one? Quite simple, i just wanted to roleplay as a monkey. My new objective became is to escape sci and get healed at med to actually start roleplaying. "Resuming your attack on that person" Okay, after i took another monkey ghost role i was already attacked and wounded. Since i've seen how scientists were dragging around and hitting dead monkeys i could clearly realise that they were about to murder me. After repeatedly trying to escape scientists have killed every single monkey. Listen, i am not an admin but. I was clearly following the rules and simply tried to protect my own life as well as trying to roleplay as a monkey, which was the reason i chose non-taken monkey roles after dying. The rules seem to clearly say that protecting your own life even as a monkey is fully legal. Or being killed for arfitact is an exception? Was i supposed to stand still and get killed instead of trying to survive? If so, this isn't written anywhere in the rules. Ahelping the question above wouldn't make any sense since that situation would happen to you least likely. Also the "Rule Clarifications" section rules clearly say "Questions should be vague enough that it is likely for the situation to occur in the future. "If someone welderbombs, can I kill them?" or "As a syndie, can I steal and hoard all of the station's food?" are fine, but describing the background of a situation in great detail likely means it's too unlikely to happen to be appropriate to ask here." As an average player i also wouldn't be concerned about that as its quite rare to happen, and the default SS14 rules tell you that you may protect your character's life. Hope you will have a nice day, but right now i will wait for admins to read this.

Game Ban KingOrange - Taking monkey roles at round start and using them to attack players. SS14 account username: KingOrange Ban reason: Taking monkey roles at round start and using them to attack players. Date of ban: Yesterday or 2 days ago. Length of ban: Voucher ban Events leading to the ban: I don't know what happened, just waiting for clarification from admins. Reason the ban should be removed: I don't know what happened yet, but i am not using monkey ghost roles to attack people, instead, i usually take a human job or just hang and chill around. I can give you some examples: Sometimes i just chill during the rounds and walk around the station and have fun with other players. I might aswell have a cool idea to complete. Heres a cool image of one of the times when i played as a monkey. We were just chilling and running around. But usually i just take a human job as a monkey and try to assist the station. I have a few examples for this too: 1. I've tried being a scientist monkey twice. Ill tell you about the brightest one. Once in a time i've became a monkey and went to sci. After the scientist let me in, i've crafted myself an advanced mop and went around being a janitor. Then i've seen a blood-red syndie getting chased down by security. The agent got stunned and dropped his WT550, which i took. I've instantly gunned down the syndie to death and dropped the gun. The captain decided to award me, but i went into sci. My memory tells me the captain during that round was Jester-Who-Helps. Then i crafted myself a CHIMP and started searching for a handheld radio. During the search in security i got killed by an officer. 2. I also was a security monkey twice, tried to help officers catch criminals. 3. Besides that, i've also been a medical monkey. I went into med and asked the nearest doctor to let me in. Then i have recieved a nurse hat and a medkit, filled it with meds and went around healing people. So, i am not a type of people who uses monkey ghost roles to commit shittery, i actually enjoy being a monkey, it is a new experience to me. Anyways, since i don't actually know what happened, i'll be waiting for clarification from admins. Lets agree, you can't try to justify your innocence when you don't even know what you've done wrong. Could the admins please describe which event caused this so i could tell if i am actually guilty or not?

Oh, I will explain that moment then. That was a different round, where a few people brought containment field to the bar, not sure if it was a rage cage. After i came in and saw it for the first time, some people were playing with the field and having fun. I've joined them. Most of people were ignoring the field or liked it. A little later Hoid arrived. I don't remember what he was talking about, but at the end he've tried to destroy the field. As many people had fun with it, i tried to stop him. I don't know how many people hated the field, but most of them seemed to be calm about it. I don't know if bartenders were complaining about it, but they've seemed to be calm about it aswell. There also was some space to drink at, although field might be annoying to some people, i am not sure if destroying the barrier is the best idea. I've tried to tell Hoid that many people loved it, some of them (Including me) were playing with the field, it was honestly pretty fun. So yeah, i've tried to stop him. After some time we've started fighting, but i got critted. I didn't kill anyone, not sure how did somebody die. After the fight i didn't really care about Hoid and the fight, as everything has calmed down. I honestly don't know how it resulted in a death, but i dont remember killing anyone at all. Like, i got critted the first.

KingOrange - "Instigated a fight with lethal weapon, resulting in a death. Couldn't contact you for information." This is a game ban. SS14 account username: KingOrange Ban reason: "Instigated a fight with lethal weapon, resulting in a death. Couldn't contact you for information. Please explain at forums.ss14.io" Date of ban: 12th April Length of ban: Appeal only Events leading to the ban: I am honestly not sure what happened. As far as i remember, the last shift i've participated in was on Kettle station. I was really confused after i saw the ban reason, but i remember something. So, CE and a few engineers have built a rage cage near the bridge. A little later i wanted to fight inside. My opponent was a botanist with a hatchet. After the battle has started he have rushed towards me. I've slipped him on soap and threw him on the glass table. A few seconds after this, the botanist has walked in/attacked a powered grille. I thought this was a good chance to win the fight, so i've started hitting him with his hatchet. After a few seconds, i've examined the botanist and realised that he died. I dragged him out of the rage cage. I dont really remember the rest of the situation, but i think a medical doctor started dragging him to med. I've been carefully checking #server-lizard-uws channel to make sure which was the last round i've played. And the result says this one is. Again, i was really confused about the ban reason as i didn't intentionally kill anybody that round, so i am not sure if this is the reason of my ban. Reason the ban should be removed: I have a few things to write. You may also call this an explanation, since the admin who tried to ahelp me couldn't do so, because i left the game. (Before the ahelp) 1. This was an incident in a rage cage, a place meant for fighting. It was designed for deadly fights. It had glass tables, powered grilles. Although fights in rage cage shouldn't be lethal, this was an accident. I didn't want to execute a player. 2. The person i was fighting touched a powered grille. I couldn't know if its LV-powered or not, so i've attacked my enemy to make sure i win. The botanist was running fast enough, which meant that he had some health left. 3. I couldn't really determine if my enemy was in crit, as they were stunned by the grille. My enemy wasnt even gasping, which makes it even harder to see if the person you're fighting is in crit. 4. We're all humans, we make mistakes. I was concentrated on a fight, as well as my enemy. We both tried to win the fight in a rage cage, which could've end up like this. Again, i was concentrated, and could've accidently kill a person, which i didn't want to do. We aren't robots, mistakes happens. Anything else: Please tell me if this is the reason for my ban or no, i am really confused about it.

I am fine with the fact that warden shot me. I've played as security, i understand that sometimes their job might be really difficult. Warden had to respond rapidly, as we took high-valuable items. In my opinion, trespassing should be solved by security, which already happened. I think perma-ban is a way too severe punishment. After getting warned by administrators, i've understood what i did wrong, i didnt break rules in the same way, as i learnt my lesson. I understand how it feels when someone ruins the round. In a short amount of time i've played for over than 240 hours, most of which i played on Wizard's Den Lizard server. I really love this game and this server, players, and community. I'd like to return and play the game again. I am apologising for whoever who got their round ruined because of me.

First of all, i agree that i am guilty. I understand that ive committed a crime. By "stealing" i meant that i didnt have an intent to escape from security with these lasers, i wouldve return them peacefully if security asked me to. As an example: You can take an item from bartender's room and return it, after you get told to. Or you can escape with bartender's items. These both are technically self-antagging moves, and i agree that i am guilty. In my opinion, punishments for these should be different. I hope that will explain what i meant.

KingOrange – Self-antagging (Breaking into armoury and stealing guns) SS14 account username: KingOrange Ban reason: As Passanger , broke into armoury, stole guns. Already warned about acting like an antag as a non-antag multiple times. Date of ban: 30.12.2022 Length of ban: Permanent (Appeal-Only) Events leading to the ban: As a passanger, i and someone else walked into sec, security had no electricity. I didn’t know what was his role. Security ignored us. The other “passanger” opened the door to warden’s room , we walked in. Then we’ve entered armoury because someone opened the door, it wasn’t bolted. Ive took 2 lasers without the intent to steal them or attack someone. Then the other “passanger” got shot by warden, as I remember.. And then I got shot aswell. I tried to fight back because I didn’t get a warning to leave the armoury and return the equipment. Reason the ban should be removed: I think the punishment is way too harsh, I didn’t have an intent to steal guns or damage the crew with them, I just saw an opened door to armoury and decided to walk in. I agree that I am guilty, as I had no reason to walk inside and take any equipment without warden’s permission. I hope I wont repeat my mistakes and ruin the gameplay for others. I’ll try doing my best to not break rules once again.