FunOnTheBun

Like, I love this game man. Nothing has hit hope for me like this. And I love being a head. I don't want to cause this game any harm or anything, I don't want to be an ill presence in the community, I just want to be a part of this and I am willing to adapt for that.

Well here's the situation as I see it. I have been playing for about six weeks, I am not a master gamer who knows every single thing about every part of the station. Hell I don't even know how wiring works entirely, sort of. But in my first response on this thread I do suggest getting to know and talk to the staff on an OOC level. Most shit done in game are in game, it's a game people make mistakes. I am not actively going out and searching to cause the destruction of the station, I am not greytiding to greytide, I do not shitsec to shitsec, I try to play the game and have fun while trying to follow the rules within the best of my knowledge. If I could know the community better on an OOC level then that would likely help me understand the game a bit better. However, I went through some of the ban appeal logs in preparation for this one and it seems like you guys hate people talking with each other outside of the game. So I don't know, I want to improve at being a Head because i enjoy RPing and I would like y'all to help me with that.

So the HoS 4 I explained and I consider myself completely liable for only 1 of which, The QM sec crates might be end round? I don't open up crates or buy crates during the mid round without a good reason to. OOC and IC thing I literally see everywhere, people yelling self-antag and that's when I kind of reflected on the whole snitching thing, have no idea about the first one might be when I was still pretty new or something I don't know, the suicide 2 minutes as salv literally was me being informed that I am QM banned, talking to the admin and forgetting I ready upped. It was partly out of frustration and out of it's 2 am I need to sleep. Cargonia thing was a whole situation, ask me if you want me to get into that, is that about it?

Okay so if you had read my appeal or the logs, there was more to the story than "I was in RP." It was red alert, the syndie was revived by med, I had thought sec was completely fucked since engi team was ineffective the round before and somewhat in the current round (CE had his magboots swiped while he was actively doing stuff), Sec being busted into by nukies, armory raided by some engis and supposedly the chaplain, and sec being filled with trit prior from atmos thingy. I do agree and apologize in hindsight for not consulting the captain, this is what the ban was for and the ban itself I would say is justified in the fact that punishment is justified. I however am trying to argue for instead of an indefinite or perma ban or whatever from all command roles for a different course, that being either accepted appeal or a timeframe, preferably not longer than 2 weeks. I personally believe that there is a compromise to any situation of two disagreeing parties where both sides can either be happy or disappointed (I hope for a happy one ngl). On a side note for the crazed HoS, I've been reading the Game of Thrones books and there is a theme that when people come back from death they are different, a character in it comes back from death and turns from a noble, family loving woman into a revenge driven zombie lady. That's kind of what I was going for. This is going to be a big one. So I was not informed that the majorities of this was on my record per say, since most of them I was not talked to for. I believe once I spaced myself as QM at the beginning of the round because i didn't know I was QM, it was Kettle and QM spawns with cargotechs and looks the same has the same starting gear except for a slightly different color difference. I talked to the admin about that and it was very courteous and not aggressive. I don't know about the other one, maybe it was when I was cargo tech on accident during mad broken cargo on kettle and I ran into the electric chair as a joke? I don't know if that's against the rules but cargotechs were actually useless at that time, basically greytide. I do not exactly know what OOC/IC and IC/OOC when things are not going your way means, is that complaining IC when an admin is punishing me or complaining OOC when someone didn't do their job properly and lost the round? If it is the latter then my past two posts have more on my progress to fixing that. I don't know what validhunting is, I assume looking for a reason to buy guns as cargo, but I only buy guns for cargo as QM if someone screams nukies or zombies over radio and it goes on red alert. Probably a time when guns were already ordered and it was a false call, so I had guns in my midst. Ngl, I've seen QM's buy salvs and cargotechs SMGs during green, the most I'll do is buy 1 laser crate for salv. For The HoS stuff, there are a lot of good reasons and explanations behind these. First of all, why even put that on my record? I asked cap or ahelp if I could oppress the station? I didn't oppress the station with insults and pistols or whatever because I asked and was told no. A bartender shot my warden with a flare gun, so I dragged him into space with chanting from my sec team for me to do so. There wasn't any captain on the station and I didn't know the precise rules for execution. I had a talk with I believe Chief_Engineer about it and I learned the rules for that sort of thing, another courteous talk with ahelp. This is part of the reason why this ban here is kind of big, showing that I knew that I needed cap's permission. As stated above, before, in the appeal, and in the logs I had thought the brig was unsuitable for life from varying evidence. But yeah, I acknowledged my mistake on the bartender thing and I haven't executed anyone on green again. I don't remember if I had an admin talk to me about this one or not. There was a guy trying to murder CMO with a crowbar, CMO was on red and I could tell from his slow walk, and I thought fast. I drew the pistol, downed the guy into crit, cuffed him and ordered med to heal him up and hold him until a sec could retrieve him. At the time I was carrying two lethals, the pistol and the laser gun, because in my first round as warden the HoS at the time told me to carry both for protection. From that point on though I only started carrying the pistol. I downed the guy with the gun because A. Urgency and B. He was in med. I read the rules and I am about 99% positive that if a situation escalates to the point that someone is put in crit, you do your best to revive them. I think downing them in med and telling med to help is my damn best without abandoning my duties as HoS and helping the guy by becoming a med. So this one is a funny story. Instead of doing my normal default RP of militaristic HoS with PTSD ends meet the means, I decided to RP a strong urge to smoke weed and eat donk pockets. I asked this sec off if he had weed or donk pockets, he angerly replied no. Started bitching about me in sec chat and other stuff. So I smacked him with the stun baton until I stunned him. I didn't arrest him at this point just stunned him. Later he assaulted me and my warden (Not sure about the warden part) and I stunned then cuffed him. I was going to arrest him for a minute and joke about it but then he SSD'd. So I have some comments on this type of stuff. I feel as if I have seen people do MUCH worst and get no punishment, or even mentioning. Does this mean that a lot of people are breaking the rules and there are hidden logs of these imaginary crimes on a record? Because guess what, without being told that something you did was against the rules, it's kinda hard to tell if you broke the rules or not. May I have my full record by the way so I can learn from my mistakes? I mean honestly, I felt like half of this was just informing me of protocol and rules, like don't carry a laser gun at the start of the round, or don't ask if we can oppress the station or whatever. Also, @lonesoldier55was the twelfth thing on my record QM abandoning post or a cargonia thing? What is my actual record? Is this entirely accurate based on what Retequizzle said?

So I don't know about you, but personally I am a person who tries to earn people's respect and only respects someone who proves to be respectful. I don't think I have earned much respect on the server, but I have seen respectable people (that includes you, you were the S and from the few encounters with people dealing with admin stuff I think you have done it well). I also want to note I have personally seen bad staffing behavior (from my personal view) from two staffs and good staffing behavior from one. I am certain there are more than 3 staff members so I have no views of the staff team as a majority. I once tried to be a bit nicer to the staff team, or at least more formal. At one point I said something like "snitches get stitches" about ahelping to Chief_Engineer. Later I kind of realized I was being pretty dumb so I started to use ahelp, at one point ahelping about something to only get a response from Chief_Engineer along the lines of, and I am paraphrasing here since I don't think I have access to logs, "only when you learn to snitch" (again I am not sure of the exact wording). A response like that sure don't make you have the greatest faith, since it seems like he isn't going to be dealing with the issue properly based on previous interactions. But yeah, I do again want to reiterate if it is known that I do not get along with one specific admin more than others and it is known, on record that I do not think his judgements are unbiased I would suggest using another person who is coming to the same decision to speak with me instead. A neutral party per say. Yeah, I'm sorry. You get yelled at enough times for doing your job bad enough you start to do it as well. I do believe I've been pretty toxic during very urgent or stressful situations, for example Nukies and whatnot. Other times I should chill out a bit more is when talking about staff decisions, looc talk about people doing bad at their jobs, and as previously known admin interactions. But for most of my speaking and interaction on the server I am IC, I tend to play lead characters as harsh people, specifically for HoS I'll play them as militaristic and "ends justify the means," for example anytime I deal with a captain that does not authorize lethal force during syndicate bombings at red alert. I also tend to be grilling my staff IC for most of the time, hell I usually discuss how I deal with my staff with my go to number two Rico Suave. Sometimes this grilling is really needed, cough cough that time that warden gave out lethals during green and broke into my room to steal my gun and shoot me with it for demoting him for the previous action. I'll try to work on my temperment with other players though on an ooc note. I know that I've been less than kind in dead chat more than once, so yeah. I really like playing a head and RPing, I have made friends being a head and I have lead teams through the most dire of circumstances. In the game that this punishment came from I had personally gotten two syndies red texted (not including the guy I executed) through deductive reasoning and leadership (one though finding advanced magboots in coats in his backpack when he tried to hide them the other using pinpointer on evac to arrest and confiscate his stolen goods). This last paragraph here is kind of a conclusion with some questions for specifically stealth, currently I am in a 3 hour class and I'd like to ask and comment on the post made by lonesoldier when I get home. I have roleplayed on a lot of games, but not a lot that include instead of writing actions but actually preforming game actions, so what is this server's definition of "powergame?" Also, I would like to talk over VC about a lot of these issues brought up so I can get a better grasp of the community here and how to properly conduct OOC business here since there is a few rules against meta comms and whatnot (plus the lonesoldier mention of mixing IC and looc whatnot, still need to think about that post a bit). I plan on using the three day game ban as a period of time to kind of work this out, with my personal goal to get to know the staff and therefor community a bit better to improve my interactions in the future, I hope you can help with that but if you are busy or other staff are busy I also understand. But yeah, that's that, feel free to respond here or DM me about it over discord, mine being FunOnTheBun#2020.

SS14 account: FunOnTheBun Character name: Jessica Von Traus Type of Ban: All command role ban Date of Ban and Duration: November 1st, 3 am CST, indefinite. Reason for Ban: Execution of a prisoner exceeding requirements by rule 13. (not getting cap's permission) Server you were playing on when banned: Lizard Your side of the story: After having a night to think about I definitely was in the wrong on this one. It was red alert, this guy, the Chaplain I believe bombed HoP and killed me in front of a lot of people and got away. So when I was cloned I decided to do a little bit of RP and go full revenge maniac, grabbing an enforcer and stalking Maints for his head while sending my sec team out for him. Somehow the guy died and for some reason unknown to anyone, this known bomber Chaplain was cloned by medical despite the protest of Sec team. So being in character, I just shot him when he was cuffed up. In the back of my head I did consider the requirements for execution, for example the unable to contain bit. Previously in the round a syndie had bombed security completely spacing it and allowing for guns to get into pop (which the chaplain used to kill me by the way) and was filled with trit at one point. I had also seen the last time I was at sec current prisoners dying or dead of asphyxiation. I know I should have asked cap first but med were being dicks and I was already tired and in character, so yeah I shot him. Why you think you should be unbanned: I think I am a good head quite honestly, well as good as any I suppose. No one is perfect, I surely ain't. But I try to bring a life to the RP aspect of being a head. If you read my last appeal that got closed because of this incident you'll hear more about it, but you can also ask some of the regulars I tend to hang out with. To me this is a fun game because you can play it super serious by the books trying to be efficient, or you can have some fun and make flawed characters and whatnot. But I'm going to be honest, I do not understand why y'all keep giving me indefinite bans. Well more of why that Chief_Engineer guy does, for what seems to be one round mess ups. I do think the punishments given to me are a slight bias, as seen in my other appeal. Okay let me go on a little tangent here. If you look at the logs, you might see I am aggressive toward your admins. It's more of I am aggressive to an admin who I believe to be a poor judge of character who seems to be the only staff member who punishes me despite me being on for most of the day most of the time. Like honestly, I'd be more fine with a punishment like this and more accepting if some other guy gave it to me, a guy who hadn't been passive aggressive to me in unrelated ahelp chats. Anyways, yeah, I think I bring that unique RP aspect to the community, I try to play each round a little different from chill, lax, a little bit memey or super serious. It's one of the reasons why I want to take up a captain role so badly because it is mainly RP from the looks of it (also one of the reasons I don't like to play engineer). Anything else we should know: Please, if you are going to try to lecture me, use a different admin than one that I am known to have a rocky relation with.

SS14 account: FunOnTheBun Character name: Jessica Von Traus Type of Ban: Role Ban from QM Date of Ban and Duration: About one to two weeks ago on a Friday 2 AM CST. Reason for Ban: Abandoned post as QM to become Sec Server you were playing on when banned: Lizard Your side of the story: It was kettle station, I did not much like that station as QM on account of the small size, constant harassment from other departments, easy QM loot to steal, and lack of cigarette machines. I went out and got the fake nuke, checked in with my cargo team and they were doing very good and self sufficient for the start. At around five-ish minutes in I caught and killed an active Syndie bomber. I decided I would just basically roam around the station and fight syndies, eventually getting another one. I would make periodic check ins with cargo to see if they were in utter chaos or anything, but they were doing fine. Later in the round there was a boxing kangaroo and some admeme shenanigans with the captain which I took part in, that is where i made the comment "I was basically sec this round." Quite honestly it was a joke, I was just walking around the station talking to people, socializing, and beating up perps. I insist that I did pop into cargo a few times to check in. But at the end of the round, while I was still doing admeme shenanigans with captain, cargo kind of imploded on itself. This was in the last five to ten minutes of the round. That is when I was talked to by Chief_Engineer about this situation. Why you think you should be unbanned: I do think I am a good QM honestly. I try to prevent cargonia, only give lasers to salv, imploy strats like fake nuke and cigarette vends. I like being a lead because I can do different styles of leadership to get different games, as seen on my HoS gameplay and RP. What happened that night was that it was one to two AM, I was tired, I had a bunch of rounds previously that some of were good and some of them were bad, I wanted to just meme around for a round and hang out with the cap and sec. Personally, I think that the admin handling my case had a bit of a grudge against me for previous behavior and interactions. I don't know if you have the logs but there are moments where I ahelp and he would respond with a comment on something I had said around the lines of "snitches get stitches" or something. I do think an indefinite punishment is a bit bullshit if you ask me, I was just fucking around for a round.