Chief_Engineer

Thank you for applying. We've decided to not accept this application, but you're free to apply again in the future.

it replaced the old poll. Through witchcraft, daemon is able to edit old posts no matter how old they are. I need to fix that but I don't want to interrupt the duck adventure so that's a job for future me

Sorry for the delay, unfortunately you don't meet our current minimum requirements for adminship. The issues I've noticed are: You only have 33 hours overall playtime on Wizard's Den. We require 100 hours minimum, but recommend 150 if you don't have significant experience on another SS13 or SS14 server. You received a 12 hour ban about a day after making this application. We require that candidates not have any game or role bans in the last 2 months. Feel free to reapply once you've met the requirements

Is Leander their SS14 username? That account isn't whitelisted on WizDen Salamander and has next to no recorded playtime. The playtime stat might be inaccurate if they primarily played over a year ago, and to be fair, they don't claim to have significant WizDen playtime, but it's not super meaningful for someone to say that they aren't banned with the amount of playtime that account has recorded in the last year. That already calls into question the accuracy or significance of around half of what they've said in their vouch for you, and we're unlikely to consider a voucher from nyano due to their dehubbing. Unless I'm mistaken about something, like what their username is, that boils this down to a voucher from an admin of delta and frontier, for an admin of frontier. That's not to say that a voucher from an admin of two server isn't sufficient to allow an appeal to be considered by the admin team, I just want to make sure that you're aware of how it's likely to be viewed internally, and give you the opportunity to address anything you'd like related to what I've said. To be clear, I also don't blame you for not knowing any of this, you obviously don't have any way to check someone's WizDen's whitelist status or playtime stats. Moving on to your admin status on frontier, I will note that I do believe we've maintained bans for members of the admin team of another server in the past. That's not to say that admin status on another server is meaningless, but I again want to make sure that you're aware of how the information will be considered by the admin team. I don't want someone to have wrongly set an expectation for you that you'd be guaranteed an accepted appeal when in reality, even an admin of another server with a voucher is not guaranteed an accepted appeal. I'm not familiar with the timeline of your adminship on frontier, so some of this may not be relevant, and I don't think that not having shared every one of these details is necessarily an indicator of dishonesty, or that they wouldn't have still chosen to make you an admin had they known about it, but which, if any, of these details about your history on WizDen was frontier aware of at the time of your ban, and which was Leander aware of at the time of giving you a voucher? Your most recent ban was an appeal ban because it was your 3rd ban in the last 6 months Your second ban, the one that resulted in the command ban because of your involvement in a mutiny as a member of command, happened only a few weeks before your 3rd Unrelated to any bans, you had been warned to not start cults just 4 days before your 3rd ban Your 3rd ban was placed when you had 124hrs of overall playtime You did not preemptively ahelp about the situation resulting in your 3rd ban, you were ahelped and asked about why you were self-antagging, and eventually said "So i mean if its a ban, or a killsign over me the next round, ill take it" Despite saying that you'd take the ban, you attempted to evade it about a week later Again, I wouldn't personally necessarily consider it dishonest for you to not have shared every one of those details with frontier when applying for admin, or when requesting your voucher, but a few of those details are fairly significant so I'm curious which they were and weren't aware of

Due to your attempt to evade your ban, you are banned indefinitely. You may appeal your ban, but only at least 6 months after your last ban evasion attempt, and only with a voucher of good behavior from another SS13/SS14 server. A voucher of good behavior should be obtained from a well-known or decently active SS13/SS14 server. If it is a mainstream server, we recommend using that server's admin-help to ask for a voucher from one of the administrators explaining that you are trying to appeal a ban on SS14's Wizard's Den and want to show you have been a problem-free player during your playtime on the server. A voucher should be indicative of at least a few months of play. If the voucher is not from a mainstream server, let us know and we will figure out a way to verify it.

It kind of looks like you made this account to attempt to evade your ban considering you first attempted to try to connect with it over 9 months before making this appeal. In cases of ban evasion, we require a voucher of good behavior. The post after this one will have more information about appeal requirements for ban evasion

Completing processing now due to the lack of a response. This complaint is being accepted based on the determination by the appeals process that the time was excessive. Findings The wording used in the ahelp and in the ban message was reasonable. It is unclear what part of the ahelp the complainant believed to be inappropriate. No part of the ahelp or ban message appear to be inappropriate, and it's unclear why the complainant believed either to be inappropriate. The ahelp made it sufficiently clear that continuing the behavior would result in a game ban. The ahelp unambiguously instructs the complainant to "chill on the sec griefing" and to "find some more creative gameplay with clown that doesnt involve stealing secs shit or slipping thim continuously". Admins should generally not use ahelp to instruct a player to do something which is optional, so it is unreasonable to expect admins to either include a warning with each instruction that disregarding it will result in a ban or to have to tell someone the same thing multiple times before it can be considered a warning. Players regularly interpret instructions from admins in ahelp as something that will result in a ban if disregarded. There appears to be no strong reason in this case for the instruction to have been interpreted as optional by the complainant. A ban is the reasonable next escalation from a warning. It was reasonable for the complainant to have been banned, but not for the duration which they were banned for. The ban appeal process determined that a ban was justified in this case. On reviewing the replay, a belief by Repo that the complainant had disregarded Repo's instructions appears to be reasonable. Throughout the 10 minutes after the complainant is revived, it is reasonable to conclude that their focus remains on interacting with security negatively and acquiring bananas to continue to slip security specifically. The ban appeal process determined that the ban length was excessive in this case. Repo was contacted during the appeal process about the length of the ban and has acknowledged that the length was excessive. Resulting Actions There were no actions as a direct result of the complaint. The contact about the ban length occurred during the appeals process, prior to the beginning of the evaluation of this complaint.

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Application accepted, please check your discord for instructions on how to proceed. Good luck during your trial period and welcome to the admin team!

An application from you was rejected a few days ago. While we have no defined waiting period before applying again, it is extremely unlikely that there'd be a different result in the short amount of time that has passed. I'd recommend waiting at least a month before reapplying after a rejected application to have it considered, with a good guideline likely being at least 2-3 months to increase the chances of a different outcome.

If you're unable to play without a VPN, please create a thread in Admin Message requesting an exemption

Thank you for applying. We've decided to not accept this application, but you're free to apply again in the future.

Thank you for applying. We've decided to not accept this application, but you're free to apply again in the future.

Sorry for the inconvenience, you should be able to connect now

Unfortunately being 18 is a strict requirement. Feel free to reapply once you've turned 18

Application accepted, please check your discord for instructions on how to proceed. Good luck during your trial period and welcome to the admin team!

Application accepted, please check your discord for instructions on how to proceed. Good luck during your trial period and welcome to the admin team!

This application is being closed due to inactivity. Feel free to open an new updated application at any time.

Thank you for applying. We've decided to not accept this application, but you're free to apply again in the future.

Thank you for applying. We've decided to not accept this application, but you're free to apply again in the future.

Regarding "The wording/tone used in ahelp and the initial ban message was inappropriate", can you point to any specific parts of the ahelp or ban message where you felt the wording/tone was inappropriate?

The admin team has decided to accept this appeal, you should be able to connect and play on the servers again

Please read this post and use the template in it for your appeal:

The ban isn't on your account, it's due to an atypical level of abuse from the IP range. You should be able to connect to the servers now.

There appears to have been a change in your connection details a few days ago. Please make a thread in https://forum.spacestation14.io/index.php?/forum/30-admin-message/ if you're still not sure what is causing the issue or are unable to make the changes needed to connect.