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That's all. Thank you to the volunteers, contributors, admins, and the players in the community for an engaging time. Just wanted to shoutout devs because this shit fucking rocks.

pro forgot to use the template and is currently banned, good app

abolish rule clarifications as they are. if neither admins or players are expected to know about or read them what purpose do they serve besides someone digging them up to say "erm akshually". current rule clarifications need to be collapsed in as footnotes into the rules when they are significant, not shuffled into a forum where they're easily forgotten and impossible to navigate. rule clarifications sit idle because no admins want to formulate response to them because they have to go through a voting process and the issues they bring up are typically edge-case-grey-area of little consequence. if something is a significant "clarification" it probably needs to be mentioned somewhere in the actual rules, otherwise it is of sufficiently little importance that apparently nobody needs to read it unless you're hunting for an excuse that your ban wasn't valid the rules pages themselves need organization more than anything, not really a comprehensive re-writing. the current problem is readability, not scope except for cases involving metagaming new game modes (which even then should have mechanical shields in place where possible). I don't blame current players on LRP for hearing flashes in maint and getting the idea that revolutionaries are running around, there's literally no other way to tell until half the heads die to what looks like a mob of tiders rules and expectations for things like security/command/silicons can use their own tabs in the rules page. Admins in general should be able to apply discretion to large majority of rules in the determination of how much the behavior is disrupting the game for other players (ex: players who don't do anything productive but run around and pick fights/steal from people/be annoying/be the center of attention should have more leeway to be dealt with administratively, even on LRP, or even more leeway to be dealt with IC). That's not to say admins need to intervene in every theft case, but players who are obviously escalating at every turn or merely trying to be a persistent annoyance for no reason should be deal with administratively. similarly this should apply to people willfully antagonizing security for no reason and screaming shitsec when they get arrested, they aren't adding anything to the game.

Hi, qwerty here, you might know me as the one who wrote various songs such as Countdown and Starlight which are used in Space Station 14. Well the truth is, I wrote these songs nearly 3 years ago when I was in the beginning phases of teaching myself how to write music. Songs I did for SS13 that have been ported to SS14 are effectively my first actual songs I ever actually released, and it follows that they were some of my first experimentations with music. I'm not actually very proud of them, but I very much so appreciate the loving responses I've gotten from multiple communities regarding them. I would like to announce that I am not the same fool I once was. I am better, I am faster, I am smarter, I am stronger, and I'm back writing music for SS14. I have learned immense amounts of knowledge about music production over the last 3 years and I finally feel confident to write new music for SS14 again that I feel will match up to my personal expectations of myself. As all of my music is, all of my new releases will be licensed under a Creative Commons attribution license, free to use for all. So now I would like to ask the community: What music should I make? I need the ideas: what vibes are missing from the game? What could really use an epic song? What music needs a replacement? I'm all ears.

Please read this post and use the template in it for your appeal:

Frontier Station owner here. MechaGigaChad has, over the last 2 months, proven not only to be an exemplary player, but also an immensely valuable asset to our admin team. The quality of RP he encourages, enforces, and personally brings to Frontier is a shining example we point to for our players. The incident in question resulting in this ban seems to have been a result of poor decision and not knowing the proper procedures of asking administration. Despite this, their behavior on Frontier has been a shining example for others, setting a consistently high bar for RP. Consider this my official voucher of approval of good behavior.

YOU HAVE BEEN BANISHED TO Space Station 13 TO COLLECT 1 Voucher of Good Behavior. ONCE THIS IS OBTAINED YOU MAY PRESENT SAID VOUCHER TO Space Station 14 Admins TO COLLECT 1 Unban from game and discord THE QUEST IS YOURS TRAVELLER

Since we posted our original announcement, a lot of things have happened on Nyanotrasen. As you may know, the server has been split and a lot of drama has occurred. I’m posting an update from our side that will provide a summary of what happened, a direct response to accusations made towards us, general thoughts and opinions on the matter, and a final verdict. This post will be extremely long and rambly. There will be a lot of evidence listed, key among which is a 2 hour recording of Nyanotrasen voice chat during the coup. In the description is a list of timestamps for highlights that I think are of particular interest. If you have the time, I encourage you to skim over it. I had originally hoped to keep this brief, however things have kept developing until the point where we now feel we are required to provide a far longer post to sufficiently address this. Summary of events (All times in UTC) April 16 Our verdict in the last announcement was clear: Rane must step down from any staff involvement in Nyanotrasen for the server to be allowed back on the server hub. Shortly after posting this, Rane said he would do it. At around the same time as announcing that he would comply, Rane was also asking me some questions in private regarding possible server/codebase separation. I said I would get back to him on that after discussing with the other PMs. Daemon approaches me in private to ask whether the previous verdict still held for them, due to some admittedly confusing wording on our part in the update announcement. I didn’t reply to them until tomorrow on this matter. Less than two hours after Rane announced he would step down, Nyanotrasen announced a new host, Almond. Almond is Rane’s girlfriend. Rane would later clarify that Almond would only be a temporary host while a proper independent host is appointed, but this fact was not communicated to the community at the time. Daemon, the previous host who stepped down shortly before the dehubbing, decided to come back upon hearing the news about Rane’s-girlfriend-as-host, citing obvious concerns that this would not be satisfactory. Daemon was convinced that, due to the lowering in scope of the previous verdict, they would still be clear to host the server. Internal discussions at Nyanotrasen from the above caused me, Daemon, Rane, ODJ (Old Dance Jacket) and Faye to get added to a group DM to discuss this matter. For me it was already past midnight and I would not read them until next evening. Daemon asserts that Almond is obviously a plant by Rane, Nyano needs to clean house of the issues that lead to the dehub in the first place, and they are willing to enforce that coming back as host. The other Nyano staff members assert that Daemon is blacklisted too so it doesn’t matter, and also that they do not want to work with Daemon anymore. April 17 I read the earlier mentioned group chat. I’m surprised at the development and say we’re discussing it internally. I respond to Daemon and say we’re discussing the exact state of the verdict on them internally. We talk about some other things related to Nyano I will mention later. It is here I learn that Almond is Rane’s girlfriend. April 18 I tell Daemon early in the day that they’re clear for hosting the server, and posted that small update in this announcement post. I also informed the other Nyano staff, and told them that Rane’s girlfriend would obviously not be an acceptable host. Daemon threatens to take over Nyanotrasen themselves, based on the fact that there is no path forward with the existing Nyano head staff. Daemon takes over the Nyanotrasen Discord and starts purging access of staff like Rane, ODJ and Faye. Some people start getting banned. It should be noted that Daemon still had control of all Nyanotrasen infra except the nyanotrasen.moe domain name. Detail on this below. From here on I will refer to Daemon-ran Nyanotrasen as “Daemonyano” and Rane/ODJ/Faye-ran as “Ranyano”. We explicitly switched the hub ban for Nyanotrasen from an IP ban against the previous IP address to a domain ban against nyanotrasen.moe. A new Discord is made for Ranyano and people pour in from the previous server in the grand mess. A new game server gets set up by Ranyano on the old domain nyanotrasen.moe. This server is not on the hub. The game server for Daemonyano goes back up again on a new domain, nyanotrasen.com. This server is on the hub. The coup is not going favorably for Daemon due to general confusion and poor communication, and the Daemonyano game server gets shut down again due to lacking staff. A long discussion is held in voice chat on the Ranyano Discord, involving many staff members and what is going on. I recorded about 2 hours of it and posted it on YouTube. Concurrent to this, Chandler, an outside party from the Trusted Seas Barotrauma community, is trying to mediate the situation and fix it. I quote: “negotiations are failing”. Daemon transfers the Daemonyano Discord to Chandler to let them fix things. April 19 Chandler transfers the Discord back to Daemon due to personal issues. Lies and hearsay are spread around and nothing in public is clear. More internal discussions are underway between us, Ranyano, Daemonyano, and Chandler April 20 Chandler comes back. More of the same: hearsay spread around, internal discussions. I call Rane out on spreading a misinterpretation of some of Daemon’s messages. He makes another group DM to straighten out miscommunication issues and get our story straight. Chandler leaves again due to assorted reasons including personal ones. April 21 Daemon announces they’ll be stepping down and promoting another neutral third-party to take over Daemonyano. Minor internal discussions. April 22 Daemon hands ownership of the Daemonyano Discord to Based Pugilist, intending to step down for good. Direct response to Ranyano I would first like to address an announcement post from the Ranyano Discord server that makes many serious claims towards us. Some of these can be optimistically explained as a genuine misunderstanding, while others I cannot describe as anything other than outright malicious in nature. I should point out that Rane has already apologized to me for this “schizopost” (his words, not mine). Ranyano has not, however, made any public announcement to retract this in their announcements channel, and the accusations are so severe I cannot leave it unaddressed. For starters, there was never an announcement that Almond (Rane’s girlfriend) was only temporary. This is the exact announcement post: Daemon addressed this themselves on two occasions, both of which Rane failed to address. The first was immediately after the announcement that Almond would be host, internally: Rane states he misinterpreted Daemon, and the “deal” he was referring to was with me, to step down from Nyanotrasen. It should be noted I would never classify it as a “deal” by any means, at that point. Like I said earlier, Rane told me he’d be stepping down, asked me some practical questions about it like codebase/server separation matters, and I didn’t give him an answer yet (and never would, due to the drama afterwards derailing things). Furthermore, Daemon outright told Rane that they thought Almond was an “obvious plant”. This is how Rane responded: I would also later reaffirm this, receiving a similar non-response: Rane would later go on in voice to say this was “misrepresented”, somebody (not Rane) even blaming Daemon in part for this: This is the first time Rane mentioned Almond being a temp host anywhere, not even Daemon knew. In fact, Rane even admitted to me it was never communicated anywhere until it was too late: And one more, early in the voice chat this was said about Almond’s position. No mention of being temporary: It doesn’t make any sense to me that the split would mean Almond isn’t necessary as a temp anymore, they did immediately get a game server set up after all? Anyways, back to the announcement image: It is true I was in Rane Ranch (the Discord in question) for a long time, but I basically never interacted with the place except when pinged. I probably joined it on a whim (invite links don’t cost anything to click) and probably have less than 10 messages posted in it. Rane Ranch is not a small private Discord, last I checked it had more than 100 members and Rane occasionally posts the link in places like the Unitystation Discord. I cannot describe this claim, that inactive presence in it is evidence I must have known who Almond was, as anything other than outright disingenuous. I did not know that Almond is Rane’s girlfriend until Daemon told me in private. (it was mentioned in the original group DM, but I skimmed over the messages in question so missed that part until Daemon repeated it to me later) I pressed Rane on this, and he responded that implying I was some sort of regular was wrong, but that he figured other staff on our side probably did know because they looked through Rane Ranch to find evidence for the original dehubbing act. But either way, this doesn’t change anything. I’ve already gone over how Rane never communicated Almond was a temp to anybody, and me knowing this from the start wouldn’t have changed the ensuing events in any predictable way. Rane would also state that he thought it was obvious, because I knew who Almond was, that she was a temp host and it would be dealt with later. Anyways, back to the announcement image: This is blatantly untrue. The only contact I had with Daemon around this time frame was them asking me for clarification on what the verdict on them is, which I said I’d ask internally. Daemon would then go on to call it out on the Nyanotrasen side, which led to the group DM being made and me properly being more involved. I would not read this until the next evening, because I had work. If you want any indication whether I manipulated Daemon into starting the line of thought that they should be host again to fix things, this was my first response after skimming over ~140 messages in that group DM: I will address further accusations of manipulation in a moment. This isn’t really aimed at us, but I’ll just quickly explain what the deal here is: Daemon was originally in control of all Nyanotrasen infrastructure except the nyanotrasen.moe domain name. This means the hardware, Patreon, GitHub and Discord. A lot of this was grandfathered in because the Discord for Nyanotrasen was originally for Daemon’s Arcadia Station server. I do not know what actual arrangements have been “promised back to 2022” in this message, and I don’t think it has any relevance long-term. One particularly contentious point was control over the Discord, which was “owned” by a special holder account. An arrangement was made where, to transfer ownership, Daemon would zip the 2FA recovery codes in a passworded zip (chosen by Rane) and send them to Faye. Daemon still had login credentials (it was also tied to their email address) but they were not able to log in due to discarding the 2FA key. Daemon stepped down from Nyanotrasen on April 2nd, a couple days before the original dehubbing, I’ll talk more about the reasons behind this later. The day before, April 1st, Daemon asked Faye for these 2FA recovery codes, and Faye provided them with no questions asked. Daemon then silently changed the 2FA credentials, which is how they had full control over the Discord. Daemon stated they felt justified to do this, since they figured what was coming with Nyanotrasen and felt that Rane, Faye and ODJ were not suited to keep running the place long-term. Rane has put a lot of focus on this particular point and we cannot endorse violation of whatever agreements were made. This was revealed around April 20th, so nobody knew about this except Daemon while the “coup” was taking place. I asked Daemon personally what the exact stipulations were for the Discord transfer, but they said they weren’t sure anymore. There is also this line by Faye during voice: Anyways, back to the announcement image: These claims are far more aggressive towards us and kind of entangled, so I’ll be addressing them in a moment. The easiest to address immediately is the one about misgendering. I want to go on a bit of a tangent here, so… Yes, when we published the original Nyanotrasen dehub notice, the second PDF file misgendered Daemon. Daemon was upset by this (along with some of the other claims in the documents) and I apologized to them for the mistake in the Unitystation Discord. I’ll repeat the reason the error happened: Daemon only came out relatively recently at the time we were drafting those PDFs, and some PMs just didn’t know yet. We couldn’t really update the existing copies of the PDFs that were going about, and Daemon was somewhat understanding. When I published the update announcement on this thread, I made sure to correct the PDF in question. One of the realizations we had internally about the use of PDFs was exactly that we could not update them with corrections like we could with a forum post, so this is one of the reasons we decided to change format for announcements. Now, this accusation of misgendering is coming from fucking Ranyano. This is where the tangent starts, I’m just gonna dump a bunch of evidence about Ranyano here, this doesn’t really change the rest of the post much. Anyways, onto the accusations of manipulation of Daemon. Rane provided me these messages when I asked for a source: These messages only support the claims of manipulation with an extremely pessimistic reading from the perspective of Rane & co. To be 100% sure I asked Daemon to confirm, and the following interpretation is actually correct: Daemon feels “forced” to execute the coup, because they are convinced a proper culling of Rane from Nyanotrasen is the only way forward for the server to be rehubbed. They already saw Rane try to pull shit by trying to install his girlfriend as host. Daemon agreed with our verdict of harassment and such by Rane, and was convinced that them taking charge and putting their foot down was the only way to avoid Faye and ODJ secretly protecting Rane, which would cause Nyano to be dehubbed forever if found out. Daemon proposed this to me first. We never forced Daemon to do this, and the only greenlight we gave is that we would rehub a Daemon coup if it got rid of Rane. Outside of these specific screenshots, Rane had far more context from private chats. For this accusation to make any sense, Rane would have had to believe that I intentionally acted out a fake surprise at this development, while controlling it from the shadows. Furthermore, Rane eventually desisted from these accusations of manipulation after I… told him to just ask Daemon directly. Guess that’s all it took. Daemon started the discussion that they believed they’d be allowed on the hub again of their own initiative in the old Nyanotrasen discord. They did not have a definitive verdict from us on that yet, and it would take a day and a half for one to be made. I already explained how we did not exploit Daemon during these uncertain hours earlier. The reason I wrote we wouldn’t rehub Nyano without this coup is quite simple: we agreed with Daemon’s conclusion that Rane & co. would keep trying to pull shit. I’ll speak more about this later in the opinion section. We wanted Rane to be blacklisted from the community as much as reasonably possible due to their harassment against our staff members, nothing more. Daemon was of the opinion they could provide that. I should back up a bit, and address the banning of Daemon and their stepping down in the first place. Daemon was banned from our Discord and forum leading up to the dehubbing of Nyanotrasen. A very large factor in this was Daemon’s lack of action to deal with Rane at Nyanotrasen in the first place. Daemon became somewhat of an unfortunate middleman in a lot of this: unable to act due to the other staff at Nyanotrasen being unwilling to listen and already having a bad relationship, but still receiving pressure from us due to Nyanotrasen. This all added onto existing mental health issues which Daemon has been struggling with. The original update to the situation on April 16th did not properly address Daemon’s situation. It was primarily aimed at the current Nyanotrasen and Rane, something which would logically exclude Daemon since they stepped down. The original wording in the update threw Daemon in the same pile as Swept and Rane, which was absolutely not justified. When Daemon came to ask for clarification we came to the conclusion that we probably went too hard on them as well, and made it clear that we’re reverting our decision on that. The decision for what to do with Daemon’s verdict took some discussion on our end. We did know they were going to try this coup if we gave them a greenlight. We also had concerns about their mental health surrounding this, and made sure to ask them about it. We agreed to greenlight Daemon based on the fact that we didn’t feel it was our place to stop them ourselves. We were also very clear that they should make sure to take care of themselves, for whatever happens. In hindsight it can be argued that the coup attempt could violate some form of hub rules, and we should have told them “no” based on that, but this was not really considered at the time. ODJ also made the accusation that Daemon saw this greenlighting as a justification of past behavior. This quote comes after people were describing some of Daemon’s poor past behavior. ODJ then went on a rant about how we are not involved enough in the community to make these kinds of decisions. Daemon is not an individual without history (we did collect it in far more detail than we maybe should’ve, after all) but after speaking with Daemon I came to the conclusion that they understand their mistakes and actually aim to do better, which is not something I can say about other individuals involved in this drama. Obviously it’s not our desire to kill Nyanotrasen, that would ultimately just harm players and the community more than anything. We want the harassment of our staff to stop, and dehubbing is the only stick we are able to swing. When we greenlit Daemon, we did not believe Rane was ever interested in working with us in good faith. We saw Daemon as risky, but the best way forward. These suspicions of bad-faith behavior turned out to be proven true many times in the ensuing chaos and fallout from the coup. One of the most damning pieces of evidence we have is just ODJ outright stating it: Rane was a key staff member doing all kinds of internal negotiations and discussions surrounding this. To say that his stepping would just ban him from posting wojack memes is absurd. We also know that Nyano staff did not take our demand seriously: I apparently have to repeat myself: Nyanotrasen was dehubbed due to vile and persistent harassment sent our way by core members like Rane. Also refer back to my previous statement about Rane’s position clearly being far more than ODJ is implying here. Faye also acknowledged that they had a plan when getting into this. We take this as ruling out internal confusion as an excuse for the earlier voice logs: If you’re a believer in freudian slips, I might even be able to sell you on this one: We take these recordings, and the tomfoolery around the “temporary” host as definitive evidence that Ranyano was never intent on complying with our demands. We see Faye and ODJ as complicit in the matter. Anyways, my truck full of evidence against Ranyano directly is empty. If you’ll indulge me, I have another car trunk full of some deets. We don’t really make an administrative decision on this matter, I just think you should see it. I am going to repeat that we did not make a big deal out of Rane for no reason, and nothing has changed on that front (that you haven’t already seen before in the evidence here). Other core Nyanotrasen staff absolutely hated Daemon even before the whole coup thing. I know Daemon wasn’t an angel by any means, so I do believe there is some truth in some of the stories posted by staff members like ODJ. That said, none of that could possibly justify this behavior towards them (content warning for the spoiler): The voice recording is filled with many instances of ODJ and other staff members throwing slurs and other vitriol towards Daemon. ODJ also gets on a soapbox multiple times to defend their usage of these slurs, and goes full ableist at times. I won’t even bother to list all these incidents here, but most of them are clearly called out with the time stamps attached to the voice chat recording. I’ve already shown their handling of misgendering. My thoughts and opinions This is the part where I drop my cold and calculating PR facade and just write what I actually think of this whole situation and the people involved. Maybe it is a wiser move, publicly, to not write this section. I don’t care, I’m fucking tired and have a bone to pick. This rant will probably be completely incoherent. I was not originally in charge of the situation. Other PMs, those more personally affected by the harassment, were among the ones spearheading the problem. I already explained how we ended up rushing things in the end to finally be able to get this done. This was all done to rid our friends of this pain. From petty shitting on people that “caused” bugs, to outright baseless accusations of pedophilia with an agenda. I was not affected or involved, but I was still vaguely watching it go by from the sidelines. There is nobody in the world that wants to deal with this drama. Nobody. We want to work on this game to create things. Dealing with drama like this is having to put in weeks of soul draining effort to stop people destroying things. It’s a completely thankless job. I’m still very possessive about the project and very perfectionist. Yet still I admitted to myself a bit before the dehub went down that “wow, maybe I could really just let other people handle this”. After the original dehub was announced, several PMs burned out internally. We knew shit was fucked. Barely any progress gets made on outside communication. I finally broke and on April 10th I took charge and worked to start fixing things. Everything from there on was under my control. Of course, more than enough votes were held internally to discuss things, but I was watching over everything. I don’t like to boast, but I think that everything since then has been handled great. That is, about as well as you can deal with a collective group of lying fucking shitters. Yes. I wrote that. This is the anti-PR department. You can make a wholly self-consistent model of the actual actions of Rane, Faye and ODJ that makes the events of the past couple days have transpired with them being fully honest. Such a model would, however, be reliant on many assumptions of them being blithering idiots. ODJ wouldn’t know what the word “staff” means. They're all too stupid to ever drop the word “temporary” when announcing Almond as host. The list goes on. But that’s not what happened. Every piece of evidence we have added to the pile of things that can be more adequately explained by some degree of malice rather than complete incompetence. Realistically the answer is obviously somewhere in the middle. I would rather say Rane is more on the calculating and manipulative side, and ODJ and Faye are more on the incompetent side of the bell curve. Hey, Rane even said he’s an extremely calculating psycho. If Rane wants to eliminate the possibility of all these inconsistencies being an accident, that suits me! I mean, they’re all shitty people either way. They wouldn’t be telling Daemon to kill themselves and sending pedophilia accusations to our staff if they weren’t. The only thing that matters is that they made enough slip-up that allows us to justifiably remove them. I mean, like I said, we always knew. I knew Rane was a serial liar going into this. This wasn’t our first rodeo with him by a long shot. Rane sends me completely reasonable questions on the matter of protocol. I have to answer with a completely reasonable response, which involves ages of internal deliberation and a calculated response for what we can get away with. It’s all playing a stupid game. Rane wants to keep as much power as he can, we have to figure out how much power we can reasonably demand him to give up without him spinning it into something. Rane wants to know if a separation between server/codebase can be argued for. It’s a clear attempt to keep all effective privileges without publicly being server staff. But I can’t just shoot that down can I? Then I look like the unreasonable one! I have witnessed an impressive amount of gear switching and backpedaling coming from Rane over these past couple days. “You must have known Almond was my GF”. “obviously nothing was finalized, we still had to discuss me stepping down”. Modshopping other PMs with the manipulation accusation. “It was a miscommunication on all sides”. “You’re really clever for answering a yes/no question”. And finally, telling me that I shouldn’t write this response. Like I can do that after accusations of manipulating vulnerable people. Literally all Rane would have had to fucking do was to stop fucking harassing us. We don’t give a rat’s fucking ass what Rane does if none of it makes it our way and we don’t hear about it. We say “no staff position” because then we can shift the responsibility to server owners, because dehubbing is the only possible stick we have. If Rane fucks off somewhere and turns a new leaf and we never see anything bad from him again that’s great! The world works! Or make an alt and return to Nyano never incriminating again, I DON’T CARE! But deep down we know he can’t fucking do that, because he’s fucking obsessed. Or we live rent free in his head. Or whatever fucking word you want to use. You want to know where the baseless pedophilia accusations came from? Because we had the gall to demand Nyanotrasen to remove an administrator that had pedophilic content on their online profiles. Cut the shit you fucking weebs, it’s not “lolicon”, it’s pedophilia. Rane has been trying to find something against us ever since. He has not succeeded. But no, I guess our demand to have Rane fuck off in the only way we can is just “flexing our ego” or whatever was said. A great take by somebody that supports the harasser, and does not fall far from the tree themselves. We’ve already had people come out of the woodwork to say “just block them bro”, or we’re overreacting, or all kinds of shit that is extremely easy to say if you’re not the victim of this. Let alone the aggressor. I have wasted weeks of my time on this. Weeks of my time I could have spent to improve the game in a meaningful way. I believe it to be necessary to support the people in this community that I consider my friends, but at the end of it I’m very hollow typing this at 2 AM. I want to say I’m just going to post this rant to the forum, block all communications with Ranyano and let it explode or simmer out from there. I know I can’t fucking do that. This shit isn’t going to be over. It’s not going to end. Hell this text is probably not going to make it to the forum unedited because it truly is the anti-PR department. By the way, ODJ, you wrote that extremely vile hate mail to Daemon, in which you were too stupid to see you’re contradicting yourself. “You’ll never be able to forget the year of your life you wasted” because you want to rub salt in. Then “grow up and move on” like it’s some mature thing to put at the end of your petty rant. Final verdict Rane, Faye and ODJ are blacklisted from any staff involvement in any hubbed server ever again. You don’t get any stupid workarounds, no codebase/server separation like Rane asked for. Just get out of my sight. If you want to come back, then make a new online identity and grow up so I never figure out it’s you again. If I catch you in voice in 5 years and you’ve actually managed it, I’ll be nothing but impressed. The last person we have this opinion on has not even attempted it. Daemon has given control of Daemonyano over to an independent third party, and whatever that server turns into will be allowed on the hub (as long as Rane/Faye/ODJ don’t come back). If any hub rules were truly violated in the coup, we do not believe these should transfer to the new ownership of the server. Update: Old Dance Jacket has been banned from the forum for posting off-topic content, and continuing to spread the same harassment here after getting warned.

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Alright, I'm never getting unbanned so lets go ahead and unpack why I was denied in my appeal. The reasons provided in the discussion for this decision were the following: - Belief you were disingenuous with your knowledge on the term, with the association of using it and the transgender flag cape and the dismissive 'woopsies' at the end of your appeal. [So, the reason I originally got banned was for saying "Trannie" when referring to a person wearing a trans cape. I did not at the time and still do not consider this a slur due to the fact that it is fucking ridiculous for a person to get actually upset over that word. Now the idea behind this was to get their attention in a way that gives them a reason for them to dislike me in order to fight them. This doesn't mean that I admit to it being a slur, I just think that it is mildly annoying in the same way calling someone stupid or an idiot would be. Not only that the woopsies at the end of my appeal was meant to show that I believed this was a very casual thing and obviously the people here take their jobs too seriously to see that.] - Your appeal was copy and pasted and low effort. [I made 2 appeals, One was short and to the point and I couldn't be damned to write the exact same thing but rephrased so I copied the first one. How much do you want me to rephrase the fact that I called a trans person a "slur"] - Your history of other bans and history. [Yeah I have absolutely no fucking clue what this means this is my first ban on this server.] You may appeal your ban, but only at least 6 months after your last ban, and only with a voucher of good behavior from another SS13/SS14 server. [6 months. They want me to wait 6 months before appealing again. Who the fuck is that dedicated to getting back into the game to wait six months and also get a voucher of good behavior. The conundrum I'm running into is that if you find a server that you play on for 6 months... why return to the one that banned you. Maybe revise the way you punish people] A voucher of good behavior should be obtained from a well-known or decently active SS13/SS14 server. If it is a mainstream server, we recommend using that server's admin-help to ask for a voucher from one of the administrators explaining that you are trying to appeal a ban on SS14's Wizard's Den and want to show you have been a problem-free player during your playtime on the server. A voucher should be indicative of at least a few months of play. If the voucher is not from a mainstream server, let us know and we will figure out a way to verify it. Appeal Denied - Voucher must be provided on any future re-appeal. Voucher from myself - fuck you mods

Here's an advanced setup for making frezon. No pipes are stacked in this picture, so it should be clear how it's built. Text next to filters indicates which gas they are set to filter. Tritium is made in the segment with a heater. Filters pointing into their own pipe network function by letting all gas through except that which they are set to filter. Filter in top right corner is used to clear excess gas and let new fuel into the pipe chamber, set rate according to your available oxygen reserves. Nitrogen filter is set to around 15 rate, it removes a portion of nitrogen that's created during frezon creation; from sleep gas decay. To jump-start the contraption, a bit of nitrogen needs to be added to the freezer section.

I don't know where you've played where this is even remotely okay or warrants a warning. I'd tell you to appeal again in a month but it looks like you immediately attempted to ban evade so don't bother.

Hello and thank you for trying to make our servers a marginally better place by becoming an admin. Here are the requirements: You must have at least 100 hrs of playtime on Wizard's Den servers. Playtime over 150 hrs is highly recommended if you do not have significant experience on another ss13 or ss14 server. You must be visible in Discord as well as ingame. You must have good conduct in-game (e.g. no shittery). You must not have been banned or role banned in the last 2 months. You must be over 18 years of age. Expectations of Accepted Applicants Applicants who are accepted will go through a trial period, which typically lasts one to two months. During this period, you must be active enough in adminning that your performance can be evaluated. If your application is accepted, maintaining the activity level that you indicated on your application should be sufficient. The activity level you indicate on your application should be something you expect to be able to maintain long term, even after your trial period, but it should not be seen as the minimum amount of time you are required to be active. It is not unusual for admins to occasionally take week long, or multi-week breaks. It is also not unusual for trial admins to take week long breaks, though doing so will typically delay the end of their trial. Extreme levels of activity will not necessarily improve the chances of passing trial, nor will it necessarily speed up the trial process. Trial admins are discouraged from being more active during their trial period than they can sustain indefinitely, and are cautioned that it is very common for trial admins to believe they can sustain a much higher level of activity than they actually can, leading to burnout and significantly lower activity overall. Please fill out the following template for your application: In-game Username: [Answer] Discord username: [Answer] Characters you play: [Answer] On average, how many hours do you expect to admin per week: [Answer] Days you are available to admin on: [Answer] How old are you? [Answer] Do you have any SS14 experience outside of Wizard's Den servers, or any SS13 experience? [Answer] Do you have prior administration experience (SS13/SS14 experience preferred, please also post a way for us to verify this)? [Answer] Have you ever been banned from any SS14 or SS13 servers? [Answer] Admins have the ability to perform various tasks which are not available to the average player. An incomplete list of these tasks is: in-game rule enforcement, in-game events, ban appeals, and out-of-game rule enforcement through things like replay/log reviews in response to player reports. With these, and any other tasks you're aware of in mind, answer the following two questions. What are you primarily interested in doing as an admin? [Answer] What are you least interested in doing as an admin? [Answer] Answer the following questions in detail, so we can get a better idea of how you'd approach adminning. What role do you think game admins serve on our servers? [Answer] Why do you want to become an administrator for SS14? [Answer] How do you feel about the current roleplay status on the servers? [Answer] Other than banning problematic players, what admin actions do you believe have the biggest positive impact? [Answer] Have you ever had a negative experience in the game or with a game admin? If so what, if anything, would you do to prevent other players from experiencing this? [Answer] Have you ever had a good experience with the game or a game admin? If so, what was it? [Answer] The following are scenarios, respond with how you would handle each as an administrator. Respond with the assumption that you are an administrator with full access to the admin tools, and that you have all the knowledge needed to use these tools. Scenarios intentionally leave out information so that you can describe how different details would affect your response. Respond in detail, explain the reasons behind decisions you make and describe any assumptions you are making. When you need to make an assumption, it is preferred for you to describe how different assumptions would affect your actions. It is the start of the round. There are 60 players on the server. The game mode is traitors, traitors have not been selected yet. There are three players who decided to observe the round instead of join it orbiting you. Two of them are encouraging you to "do something funny". [Answer] This scenario takes place on LRP. The Head of Security has decided to coup the Captain. The Head of Personnel agrees with the Head of Security and has taken up arms in case it is necessary to aid in effecting the arrest of the Captain. The Captain is hiding with the Quartermaster in the cargo shuttle to avoid the Clown who has stolen the captains saber as a non-antag. There are five people named in this scenario. Please describe what actions, if any, you would take in relation to each, and why. [Answer] You are ahelping a player about an issue. The player has no prior noted issues. A few days earlier, an admin had told you that this type of situation should result in a temporary ban for a first offense, and you are confident that this situation is not substantially different from the type that admin was describing. During the ahelp, another admin pings you on Discord with a link to the ongoing ahelp and tells you to just indefinitely ban them and make them appeal. Excluding trialmins and headmins, all admins are equally "ranked". A headmin is not currently available. [Answer]

Do we have that big of a shitter issue? Is there a new shitter that plays for the first time every day or something? Why am I not seeing this apparent shittery? In SS13 this isn't an issue. Most roles in SS13 have or can obtain incredibly robust weapons. Botanists for example can very easily mutate death nettles and then maximize their potency to become a 2 hit crit weapon. (And I still die defending myself from antags with these.) They can also easily engineer super kudzu that mutates all over the place, explodes shit, and spawns venus human-trap ghost roles that snatch people and chomp em to death. Guess what, I haven't seen any shittery happen with these on non-antags. I bet if someone wanted to add this to SS14, they'd get slapped in the face and responded to with "But shitters will go around self antagging with this!" and "Normal crew shouldn't have access to overpowered weapons!" as if admins weren't a thing. Another example is Chaplain, who literally has a holy weapon (null rod) that makes them immune to all magic as long is they have it anywhere in their possession, which they can transform into one of many unique forms with different upsides and downsides. They also get a selection of various suits of holy armor that have equal armor stats to full riot gear. And the thing is, this doesn't make a huge difference. The null rod is a good weapon, although it does lower damage compared to other weapons possessed by antags and security, as well as some other jobs later on in the round. I remember asking about when we'd get null rods, and coders were telling me chaplains shouldn't have "overpowered shitter validhunter gear", meanwhile on SS13 I do not see chaplains running around killing antags or being a shitter. If there's a cult, wizard, revenant, or heretic, then the chaplain is more likely to try killing them (since their job is to deal with supernatural threats and they are the best equipped to counter them) even with these counters though, these magic antags still have the upper hand in most situations due to having strength in numbers, better gear, or both. So why are we scared of adding fun to the game?

Ban reason: [Racism, repeated use of the N-Word] Length of ban: [] Events leading to the ban: I was saying the N-word on SS-14, it wasn't to anyone or anyone I can recall. Reason the ban should be removed: [ Dear SS-14, I am writing to appeal my recent account suspension due to my regrettable and unacceptable behavior involving racism. I fully acknowledge and accept responsibility for my actions, and I am deeply remorseful for the harm and offense I have caused. First and foremost, I want to express my sincere apologies to the community, to those directly affected by my words, and to the platform as a whole. My actions were inexcusable and do not reflect my true beliefs or values. I understand that racism has no place in any community, online or offline, and I am committed to educating myself and working towards becoming a better and more respectful individual. I want to assure you that this incident has been a profound wake-up call for me. I have taken the time to reflect on my behavior, to understand the impact of my words, and to educate myself about the harmful effects of racism. I now recognize the importance of fostering an inclusive and respectful environment in online communities, and I am determined to contribute positively to achieving that goal. To demonstrate my commitment to change, I am willing to undergo any necessary training or counseling to address the underlying issues that led to my racist behavior. Additionally, I am more than willing to comply with any conditions or restrictions imposed on my account as part of the reinstatement process. I understand that trust is something that must be earned, and I do not expect my account to be reinstated immediately. However, I humbly request the opportunity to demonstrate through my actions and behavior that I am genuinely remorseful and committed to positive change. Once again, I offer my sincerest apologies for my actions, and I thank you for considering my appeal. I am hopeful for the chance to prove that I can be a responsible and respectful member of the community once more. Thank you for your time and understanding. Sincerely, asfsGsdrfgSDG ]

All crew on MRP are expected to stay within their job and not do other people's jobs for them, however there are no restrictions on crew knowledge in regards to hacking doors. This applies whether or not the situation is an emergency.

Hello again. Admin consensus is to deny this appeal and require a voucher for any future appeals. A future appeal must be made at least 6 months from the time your ban was placed(2023-12-01). This is due to many factors, but these are the prominent ones: You have a very large history of previous issues. While we understand that you also have an extremely large amount of playtime which is bound to lead to more incidents we cannot disregard the sheer amount of them and their severity. The hateful statements you made were also a big part of this decision. We understand that those statements were made hastily and/or under poor mental health however we also cannot just ignore them. While you have apologized for all of the above, and have stated that you have improved your state of mind we cannot just take this at face value. This is why we would be much more confident accepting an appeal in the future accompanied by a voucher of good behavior. A voucher of good behavior should be obtained from a well-known or decently active SS13/SS14 server. If it is a mainstream server, we recommend using that server's admin-help to ask for a voucher from one of the administrators explaining that you are trying to appeal a ban on SS14's Wizard's Den and want to show you have been a problem-free player during your playtime on the server. A voucher should be indicative of at least a few months of play. (edited)

After consulting with a member of the admin team in regards to your non-english section of the appeal, this has been upgraded to a voucher ban. A voucher ban means you cannot make an appeal until 6 months after the posting of your most recent appeal or attempt to ban evade. (At time of writing meaning 6/8/24). In addition, you will need a voucher of good behavior from any other server from space station 14 or space station 13 if you even want your next appeal considered.

We have removed Xeno Station due to violation of the Space Wizards Hub Rules: 1.5. If your server or community as a whole is 18+, you must do due diligence to remove underage players Given the nature of the issue we have decided to immediately go for a 3-strike dehub. Details Previously Ian Station was dehubbed due to containing members under 18 years old on their ERP server. It was brought to our attention that a new server was made out of this community that is also engaging in the same acts. Some of the proof is as follows: - The github linked for their server is the former owner of Ian station's github which is still being developed. https://github.com/Xomashok/space-station-14 - The Xeno Station wiki is still actively being edited by the former owner of Ian Station. https://wiki.centralhive.ru/index.php/Заглавная_страница

I was unjustly banned by a Mod who abused his Mod powers. I stuck up for a friend that said "Bussy" and he didn't know he would be perma banned for it... I askeda mod to please unban him and instead of saying anything, he just perma banned me!!! I did nothing and have been playing ss13 since 2008... I am trying to get new people into the game and this is absolute fascist way to handle new players...

Ban reason: Length of ban: idk Events leading to the ban: i didnt actually do anything just had a chat with a mod Reason the ban should be removed: biased ahh ahelp with mod enforcing a rephrased rule and he was an extreme snowflake i didnt even say a bad thing i just stated what mods do but ok but thanks i now understand that replying to ahelp is a bad idea

My suggestion is specifically for MRP and is regarding revolutionaries and mindshields. Note: In my mind all three suggestions rely on each other, I would not recommend implementing any one of them without the other two. 1. The sound of a flash being used, or a civilian caught with a flash in their inventory should not be sufficient evidence to believe revs are on board. This would be a definitive rule so that anyone who hears a flash and starts calling revs can be ahelped and dealt with. 2. Space law should be updated to allow Sec to mindshield anyone who has committed a tier 3 crime or higher. The current rules state: "Shields can be administered to any inmate who has been clearly mind controlled, lost control of themselves, or a suspect charged with unlawful control." The problem is that there is no IC way to tell when someone has been "clearly mind controlled" unless you give them a mindshield, which you're not allowed to do unless you can already tell they're being controlled. This change would give a clear and easy to understand standard to follow, and a natural way for security to discover the presence of brainwashing without magically figuring it out at the sight of a flash. And if security doesn't follow this rule, it can either be dealt with IC by a lawyer for not following space law, or OOC by an admin for not following the server rules. 3. Command, or more specifically the Quartermaster, should be allowed to buy mindshields at their own discretion. Buying anything as a precaution should be a cost-benefit analysis. Are we rich? Maybe let's buy some mindshields. Are we poor? Let's spend our money on the basic necessities. In the same way, the headrevs should be doing the same analysis. Do you play slow and cautious and risk cargo getting rich and buying everything they could ever want? Or do you play fast and aggressive and risk getting caught in the act? This is a much more interesting dynamic then command pretending mindshields don't exist for fear of getting role banned. Ideally these changes would also come with gameplay tweaks such as flashes being locked in the Secfab or being removed from borg recipes altogether so that one rev scientist can't completely eliminate the need for revs to take any risks to get more flashes.

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We have removed Ian Station due to violation of the Space Wizards Hub Rules: 1.5. If your server or community as a whole is 18+, you must do due diligence to remove underage players Due to the severity of the issue we have decided to immediately go for a 3-strike dehub. Details Ian Station is an 18+ Russian ERP server that is intermittently hosted. We cannot provide an exact server address as it keeps being hosted from a different IP. We received multiple reports of the server's owner being underage themselves, and neglecting to enforce that people are actually 18. We were able to verify these claims on their official Discord, the owner publicly stating on multiple occasions what their age is (I'm not gonna post any direct messages on this however...). I also found multiple off-handed mentions of "half the server is underage and you know it"-type stuff, though I'm not interested in doing an in-depth analysis to see how much of that claim is simply hyperbole. Furthermore, we found this message from the owner in their announcements channel: Google Translate (emphasis mine): We take all this as clear evidence the server's administration has little interest in properly enforcing basic age requirements, and decided we would rather go with the nuclear option.

That's a very uncharitable reading of the situation. If I had intended it in a sexual context rather than the humorous reference that it is, I would have used the term penis instead of PP. I feel you’re inserting context here that isn't there on this one. I do think the fact i used PP instead of penis makes a difference here. the intention is clear. Simply referencing that people have genitalia with no sexual action mentioned isn't what I would qualify as sexual content. there was no direct reference to any sexual act. This really does feel like you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. This is a very long running joke that has existed before the internet, and has been a part of internet popular culture for multiple decades about an awkward interaction that someone had at a high school, and the confusion around that no one else had it. I dont think it's unreasonable to assume that the vast majority of ss14 players would know that this isn't a joke about a sexual act, but an awkward medical experience. I'm confused by the spectrum of what's deemed acceptable behaviour here as SS14 is a game where the intention of the player is to murder, gore, literally rip bodies apart, commit acts of terrorism etc. but simply acknowledging the existence of genitalia tangential to a joke is an immediate ban? Not even a warning? This does seem to be squarely within the realm of "exceptions for insults such as dickhead, etc." as that is the use of a word that is “sex-adjecent” without any underlying sexual context. Unless the reader is to assume that they mean the person literally means that we're talking about people running around with penises on their head.

Gunbolts fucking rock and it's a genuine 100% skill issue if you cannot learn how to use them in 5 minutes. You can take our your Cobra, press the bolt and make an audible gun sound without having to arbitrarily cycle a round and say "Any last words?" before killing someone. Genuinely game-changing in terms of antag RP, but this fits in with other shooters where you need to rack a round after fully emptying a clip, this usually extends animations slightly - but that extra second can be the difference between life or death. It's no different here.

Thank you for your complaint. I've concluded investigating it and will be accepting it with the following findings and resulting actions: Repo reported the event as required by admin policy 2.5. The event report was sufficiently accurate, but did not report a brief self insertion during the event. Ideally, the self insertion would have been included in the event report, but given current policy and the nature of the self insertion, it is reasonable that it was not logged in this instance. There were no Leviathan event reports recent enough to this event that it'd suggest an event should not have been run at the time. A vote for the event ran and passed, however it may not have been clear that the vote was for an event or admin intervention. Repo identified this issue when contacted about the complaint before it was presented as an issue. In addition to it being unclear that the vote was for an event, the complainant was in-game but appears to have been performing a search at the time of the vote, so it is possible that the vote was missed by them entirely. After the event had begun going in a direction other than what was intended, Repo briefly inserted themselves as a centcom official in what appears to have been entirely an attempt to steer the event IC, rather than participate in it. Admin policy allows this sort of self insertion. During the self insertion, Repo remained adminned without an apparent need to use admin tools for the event. It is reasonable that Repo may have forgotten to deadmin during the insertion, and there is no apparent use of admin tools, other than ahelp, during the insertion. This is technically a violation of admin policy 2.4, though it appears to be minor and does not appear to have contributed significantly to the overall issues experienced by players. During the self insertion, Repo used ahelp to respond to an ahelp made by the complainant which involved them. There is no evidence that this was done maliciously. The response may not have been significant enough to give rise to a violation of admin policy 2.1, and it doesn't appear to have been within the spirit of the sort of admin messaging forbidden by admin policy 2.4, but it could reasonably be seen as inappropriate and may have been a violation of both policies. Repo was reminded of admin policies on self insertions and on admins handling cases they are or were involved in. The event appears one which could have been justifiable under admin policy 2.5, but which went unexpectedly, rather than one which was entirely unacceptable. I was unable to find logs indicating that the complainant was subtle messaged, as indicated by the ahelp, but did find logs that other players had been subtle messaged. Repo identified issues with the incident when contacted about the complaint before those issues were brought up, and was receptive to feedback. In the exchange discussing the complaint, Repo met the requirements of admin policy 1.1. Repo was advised to not run large events alone, particularly so soon after completing their trial period. Repo was also advised that people are unlikely to look favorably on events where others are perceived to be allowed to break rules, especially security, without very good pre-round communication and expectation setting about the event. Unprompted, Repo offered an apology to be relayed in this thread: The following is information related to the investigation of the complaint which is being released: Relevant round: Leviathan 31252 Replay: https://cdn.centcomm.spacestation14.com/replays/leviathan/2023/08/17/leviathan-2023_08_17-12_04-round_31252.zip Ahelps: With a Syndicate Agent: A syndicate agent asks if they can use the lobbying kit on any of the members of command. Repo correctly identifies the question as something which is being discussed internally, then grants permission to the player. The player relays that the HoS has agreed to a security led coup and Repo indicates that they are in contact with the HoS. Repo indicates that they will attempt to convince other security to participate if needed. With the HoS: HoS ahelps to ask for guidance on what to do when a syndicate is attempting to negotiate. The HoS indicates that they'd like to try to lead the negotiator to get more out of them before arresting them, to which Repo responds by encouraging cooperation and saying that they can run a vote if the HoS would like to proceed. The HoS agrees. Repo and the player discuss plans before the player indicates that they've been discovered. Repo indicates that they're attempting to recover the event and then rejects a request for a "round 2" from the player, saying "nah this has gone terrible". With a player using mapped Centcom gear: Though related to the event, this ahelp appears mostly tangential. Repo attempts to identify where the player found the centcom gear, then tries to get the player to help recover the event saying "can you get all the sec back to sec for a meeting, this centcom thing threw a spanner in the works". With the complainant: Complainant indicates that they've been murdered for the second time by the HoS using syndicate gear, and that another player assisted. Repo says that they'll get the complainant back up, instructs them to "help him out", and informs them that they'll make an announcement, saying they thought "the 1984 was clear enough". The complainant expresses their dissatisfaction with the event, to which Repo responds saying that the ran a vote and attempted to subtle message the complainant. **Changeling:** Fox Bridgeton murdered me second time as hos using syndicate gear **Changeling:** Phryganoporus Formosanus assisted him **Repo:** ill get you back up, help him out. ill make a anouncement as i thought the 1984 was clear enough. **Changeling:** I wasnt here and this is blatant self antag by whoever is assisting him **Changeling:** can I just kill everyone or is this what you want, for sec to die? **Changeling:** just so you know I will be making an official complaint on forum on you personally for murdering entire security department with your \"event\" and ruining our round **Changeling:** all for some \"ACAB\" bullshit politics **Repo:** Alright thats fair, i ran the vote earlier, it was a overwhelming majority. i subtle messaged you a couple of times, but clearly you didnt see it or not interested. **Changeling:** I cant see subtle messages when there's constant people talking and people shooting **Repo:** Yeah it was a bit hectic. the round is set to end now anyway.

We're not operating on your own personal interpretation of self-antagonism. The CMO depicted here "ruining your vibe" of running around with guns threatening to kill people is a crew member trying to stop someone obviously dangerous from running around with weapons when they aren't supposed to. I think your posts here clearly illustrate you think you didn't do anything wrong (or didn't do something warranting a ban at least), which isn't the truth. This ban holds, you can wait it out until the 13th.

YOU RACIST!

For all purposes, cargo and salvage can be considered one department and I will be referring to it as cargo in this post. With expeditions and magnet recovery being heavily combat oriented, cargo will end up with large amount of lethal guns and good armor very early into the shift. It's hard to blame cargo players for not wanting to die, it however is in stark contrast to the other combat oriented department - security. While security has to follow escalation/chain of command and can't simply arm up roundstart with best-in-slot items available for combat, there's no such standards for cargo. It's become completely normal and expected for cargo to order SMGs, riot armor and medical/other supplies for their own use, with complete autonomy and no oversight or interaction with any other department. Cargo is now a de-facto a military branch of station that is sent out to kill and loot places, with nobody to answer to, no escalation for gearing up, just pure untethered powergaming as (un)intended by being a combat focused department. I propose two separate solutions: 1. Require specific access to place orders, same access as is required to open crates from said orders. This will prevent cargo from gearing up without department interaction and just busting crates open. 2. Separate and rename salvage into an actual military themed department that cannot roll antag status/has severe TC penalties, as they are already geared and equipped for combat. Hold them to same standard as security.

In a game where all the lethal weapons are locked in one of the most secure areas of the station, and requires not only warden/hos access to enter, but also verbal confirmation to get a gun out of there. I find it out of place that all cargo has to do to get lethals is push a few buttons. Security has to jump through hoops to get lethals. They need to ask for permission, they need their superior to hand it out to them, and they usually need it to be a red alert emergency for this to happen. Compare this to cargo. Anyone on cargo can push a button and get lethals with no oversight. Making a change where cargo has to request permission for other department goods(or at least security) would drive communication between departments, give the QM something to do in command chat, and would give cargo the oversight and regulations that other departments need to follow.

how did a hurricane hit your house and cause a power outage when all the hurricanes of the 2022 hurricane season for Florida spanned from June to November and your ban was on April 26th, 2022, far outside the scope of any hurricane activity

to expand on last bit you need confirmation via bwoink or subtle message, nobody telling you to stop doesnt mean you can do it (admins arent online 24/7)

One Night In 2017 Mummy And Daddy Has Some Fun, But Made A Oopsie. An Oopsie Mummy Should Have Swallowed, But Instead She Said Gobbles Because She Was A Dumb Freaking Turkey. Then There Was A child, their Inteligence was less than mild. By The Time They Were 5 Years Old, They Found Neckbeard Gold. Discord, They Perved On Girls And Made People Hurl With Their Tiny Dick And Somehow Being So Retarded They Were Able To Become A Discord Admin And Maintainer Of A Good Game,But All They Added To The Game Was Unfortunate Pain, One Day A User Called Ragg Said "Hey my ban was 2 days but you made it 3? can you lower it please? I hope The Admins Care about this because its their freaking job." "haha no cunt, get fucked" and so the child went on, to make retarded comments. I wish Mommy Swallowed Him Becausec I'd Rather Talk To A Neckbeard Than An SS14 Maintainer

(This will extend to game server and Discord if viable. Otherwise, I can make a separate post for the latter.) Ban reason: Abusiveness toward volunteers. Length of ban: Appeal-only. Events leading to the ban: In Discord I was critical of the lack of admin response to a rule question that at the time was unanswered. Metalgearsloth replied to something I stated to which I responded to with an off topic/unwarranted reply, then leaving the server. I was summarily banned from both the Discord and in-game for my actions. Reason the ban should be removed: To double up on an issue presented in the past by freeman in regards to a previous ban, I can and have taken the game too seriously. All I can state to this point is that my life circumstances have changed drastically and have placed me in a position of exponentially greater mental health and self-identity. I do not think that my criticality of the handling of the question should have been so heavily lauded by Sloth - however, in an effort to empathize I cannot feasibly understand how many people blame admin teams, developers, and the like for the lack of elements, be that ground rulings on specific issues or content or otherwise. I will also state that the admin who compelled the question is no longer on the team. Not with any longstanding feeling of vindication do I think that my question was largely reactionary and ultimately confrontational to an unnecessary extent. If the question is unanswered, so be it, I really should not have so much weight in the hypothetical scenario of a collection of pixels. For this I genuinely apologize. My words were also misunderstood through my own fault - I'd mentioned that I was the longest time player, but I misspoke. (longest time player construing that I'd played for 2k hours, *not* that I've played historically the longest.) I've been outwardly critical of a few admins in the past but never took it to Discord to express discontent in the way I had, and furthermore should never be overly critical of one who spends times deliberately attempting to alleviate issues, even if I disagree with them at the time, as rulings can always change and conversations can always be had to find middle ground. I apologize to Kayek who I yelled at when they called me out, rightfully so, for breaking into the high tech vault on Box when I brought back a multitude of materials for cargo after a conversation over rushing insulated gloves. That was really unfair, you've always been a kind admin, and you're just looking out for other players who don't get a chance for gamer loot because Sosa™ keeps rushing the Gamer Gear™. I can try to rationalize my behavior "that other people won't find it," but that just means I can look for it 10-20 minutes down the road and focus on other things... Like roleplaying, or my job. I apologize to Metalgearsloth for telling them "good luck on your sound issues lmao" before leaving the Discord, as this was during a time when sounds were all around having issues, the game seems to have less project managers/as hardcore contributors due to forks or otherwise burnout and pissing off one of the very few is a dogshit move. I can be an asshole, but for everything I complain about, I've never had so much fun, and I know you're inherently one of the few people to thank. I can and will be more grateful and less inflammatory in future interactions, regardless of the outcome of this ban appeal. I apologize to LordEclipse for insinuating that they were babysitting an unfair rule infraction when they'd just gotten on and were assessing the situation in an objective manner. I realize I can be overly critical and I apologize that it manifested into one of my favorite hobbies because of how obsessively I handled something as simple as a response of volunteer time. I did not mean for this to manifest into vitriolic actions towards the staff who has provided innumerable experiences and want to better my actions/speech wherever viable. If and when I feel a judgement is unfair pales in comparison to how many times people have likely been told that I was within rights to perform actions I'd done in the past via self defense, antag actions, or otherwise. I came from watching Ssseth's SS13 video, cramming out space drug pills as a non-antag mime to trying to make narrative artifact videos. I believe that change in attitude is possible and want to remain open to it, I do not want to be cynical and abusive. I'll cool my jets from here on out, whether or not I'm accepted in either medium. Peace.

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Scary

I would like to necro comment on an older post in this thread from @Changeling about equal outcomes get equal treatment. I disagree, it looks like an arbitrary and metagamey distinction to me. A lot of the things you mentioned in your post already lead to confiscation and brigging. Possession of (makeshift) cuffs by non-sec isn't allowed, let alone restraining someone. Lube foam, I'm assuming you mean via modular grenades, is usually considered possession of restricted gear and vandalism when used. I don't feel like a clown/mime slipping people (within reason) is anything more then a harmless prank unless it hinders an arrest for example, which is also already punishable. Would this mean security needs to do a shift start department raid on the soap armory, AKA the janitorial closet, like when galoshes were available at the JaniDrobe? Would this mean bananas should be considered Walmart Gatfruits, because eating will grant a (stun)weapon? Should security be allowed to confiscate a musician or bartender's sunglasses because the intended use for the item is flash protection? Should bartenders only be allowed to serve water and soda because alcohol poisons crewmembers? You get the idea. I think that LRP law addressing behavior purely from a mechanical perspective doesn't feel intuitive and will lessen people's enjoyment of the game.

A while ago, we added support for replays into the game. Effectively, a recording of the game can be made on the server and client, which you can then play back later yourself, no server needed. The system is now fully automated server-side, meaning every game round is automatically recorded and made available for viewing! Download the replay you want from here. Open the Space Station 14 launcher. Drag & drop the replay file onto the launcher. Alternatively, press the "Run content bundle/replay" button in the launcher. Off you go! For server operators, you can find documentation on how to set it up here.

You mentioned in you didn't know why you were being banned in the aHelp, here is some of the related details: https://wiki.spacestation14.io/wiki/Server_Rules#No_Hate_Speech_or_Discriminatory_Language Slurs (including variations of slurs, racial, sexual, disability-related, or language closely tied to real-life slurs) And then just following up in the aHelp malding about how your great and your teammates are not didn't do you any favors. The ban length reflects the disability slur, misuse of aHelp and repeat/previous offences in line with the banning policy. Your meant to work as a team in nukies not antagonize the rest of your team. I suggest you take the time banned to cool off and come back a bit more positive outlook if you want to play here because there is clear trend of toxicity from you that will in all likelihood just land you in a more permanent ban on future incidents. Appeal denied - ban stands.

Literally every single interaction you have had with our moderation has been some combination of demeaning, negative, accusatory, or outright hostile for virtually no discernable reason. Your appeal is about the same. Denied. Appeal again in a month.

And read paper! I think it's nice to have things that are ultra rare. Makes it special when they do pop up.

im not sure you understand ss14 players CANNOT play anything else we are addicted we need ban to stop playing ban this man for his own sake

The other day I found an actual practical use case for the pneumatic valve. I'd welcome others share if they found any use of these obscure devices. In the attached picture, you can see how to setup a pressure release vent, that vents excess pipe pressure. Green square is the main pipe that you want to regulate. Blue square pump rate setting indicates at how high pressure the valve opens. Other pump is set to 200 rate. Red square is excess gas vent. This contraption works by maintaining a fraction of main pipe gas inside the control input of the pneumatic valve. You can use this setup to make sure a TEG loop doesn't choke on too high pressure.

Not meant as an insult but rather a fact. You might be the most obnoxiously skilled player in all of SS14. Some would call you sweaty. So of course an extra button to press, another hotkey to memorize and an extra hurdle is right up your alley. They could add a whole dozen mandatory hotkeys to gun mechanics and you might end up loving them all. But most people wanna just play funny hahah spessmen without having to worry about extremely minor things such as "did I close the bolt after I last reloaded this gun?" Surgery and gun bolts are two completely different areas of the game and have nothing to do with one another, though I get the point you are trying to make. Surgery update might introduce a dozen new ways to be harmed, wounded, crippled and more upon release and consequently a dozen more techniques a proficient medic will have to know to be good at their job and be able to tackle any situation. The main point here is that this thread is about an extra mechanic that feels quite unnecessary. Surgery is a long anticipated and welcome addition to the game.

Fair enough. Don't just randomly welderbomb stuff and leave; that's textbook "I am really not interested in playing this game" behavior that we frequently get from new accounts. Accepted. Good thing I checked, apparently your immediate instinct was to try and make another account (Rain234) to evade the ban. Denied.

fair

Here is a small sample of things we take issue with: We agree. Denied. Appeal again in a week.

Hey, If I don't mistake you for someone else, I was one of your victims. I was near medbay but not inside, had some minor brute damage and no intention of being treated. I was speaking with one of my colleagues and you came next to me trying to force feed me multiple times. I gave up thinking it was medicine and you went up your way. I then started taking damages which had me stopping again what i was doing. TL:DR : No you didn't make sure we got fixed up in medbay.